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DanneSandin on 22 February 2013
Conegamer said:
DanneSandin said:
Conegamer said:
Turkish said:
Just look at the reactions of 3rd parties, they're all very happy with PS4s 8GB GDDR5 ram, ram was one of the biggest bottlenecks current gen. Nintendo just let them down.

Gamecube was a beast console, in return it got many multiplats.

As I recall at E3 2011 (or even 2012?), Nintendo said that they designed the console with 3rd parties in mind, and as such there was nothing but praise for the system. Who knows what happened to cause such a change.

Nintendo gave 3rd party developers gimped dev kits?!

 

Has anyone really read what I'm saying???

No, I read what you said and good points are raised in it. However, why did Nintendo do this, and moreover, why did the devs say that the kits were so great initially if they weren't?

They didn't know that 270mb were reserved ONLY for use by Nintendo. That's 24% of the RAM they COULDN'T use, but that Nintendo COULD. They initially thought that they ALL had 732mb to use, but that wasn't the case; they could actually use 1gb - but weren't allowed.



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DanneSandin on 22 February 2013
Cobretti2 said:
DanneSandin said:
Conegamer said:
Turkish said:
Just look at the reactions of 3rd parties, they're all very happy with PS4s 8GB GDDR5 ram, ram was one of the biggest bottlenecks current gen. Nintendo just let them down.

Gamecube was a beast console, in return it got many multiplats.

As I recall at E3 2011 (or even 2012?), Nintendo said that they designed the console with 3rd parties in mind, and as such there was nothing but praise for the system. Who knows what happened to cause such a change.

Nintendo gave 3rd party developers gimped dev kits?!

 

Has anyone really read what I'm saying???


so did Sony with the PS4, until the reveal they were all under the impression it had 4GB of ram.

yeah, but I'm sure Sony isn't prohibiting 3rd parties from using all of those 8gb to games from now on. 3rd parties had to bitch on Nintendo to get more access to the 1gb in Wii U... there's a difference.



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Incubi on 22 February 2013

DanneSandin said:

even more troubling is that I just heard that Nintendo has canceled 2 3rd party games to the Wii U; 1 being exclusive and 1 being a multiplat. And these games are well known, popular titles by a major publisher. The exclusive games will now probably be heading to the PS360.

Really? Nintendo cancelling upcoming 3rd party games for WiiU? That does'nt even make sense.



DanneSandin on 22 February 2013
Incubi said:

DanneSandin said:

even more troubling is that I just heard that Nintendo has canceled 2 3rd party games to the Wii U; 1 being exclusive and 1 being a multiplat. And these games are well known, popular titles by a major publisher. The exclusive games will now probably be heading to the PS360.

Really? Nintendo cancelling upcoming 3rd party games for WiiU? That does'nt even make sense.

I know, they're stupid as hell and really shooting themselves in the foot. And it's no small games either.



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Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

DanneSandin on 22 February 2013
RolStoppable said:
DanneSandin said:

Nintendo gave 3rd party developers gimped dev kits?!

 

Has anyone really read what I'm saying???

Why should you be taken serious when you said that Nintendo cancelled third party games?

Well come e3 and you see what kind of MEGATONS I talked about I should be believed.



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Ljink96 on 22 February 2013

HD is good enough for me. As long as I play Super Smash Bros. by next year I'll be okay. I don't see why people are so immersed in power. Nintendo could easily make the most powerful console in the world but they're not trying to turn a console into a computer. If I wanted a PC I'd go get a MAC you know what I'm saying? Any video game company can make a powerful console. Nintendo isn't power hungry like some other people I know. They just worry about the most important aspect of gaming... the games! Who would have known!?



Conegamer on 22 February 2013
DanneSandin said:
Conegamer said:
DanneSandin said:
Conegamer said:
Turkish said:
Just look at the reactions of 3rd parties, they're all very happy with PS4s 8GB GDDR5 ram, ram was one of the biggest bottlenecks current gen. Nintendo just let them down.

Gamecube was a beast console, in return it got many multiplats.

As I recall at E3 2011 (or even 2012?), Nintendo said that they designed the console with 3rd parties in mind, and as such there was nothing but praise for the system. Who knows what happened to cause such a change.

Nintendo gave 3rd party developers gimped dev kits?!

 

Has anyone really read what I'm saying???

No, I read what you said and good points are raised in it. However, why did Nintendo do this, and moreover, why did the devs say that the kits were so great initially if they weren't?

They didn't know that 270mb were reserved ONLY for use by Nintendo. That's 24% of the RAM they COULDN'T use, but that Nintendo COULD. They initially thought that they ALL had 732mb to use, but that wasn't the case; they could actually use 1gb - but weren't allowed.

Yeah I get that, and I get why you're periodically introducing capitals into your reply. It is a big chunk, but even so they were all praising the system for how powerful it was and how easy it was to develop for, even on the "gimped" dev kits. So why the sudden turnaround?

I get what you're saying, and I agree it's ridiculous. But it doesn't explain the sudden change of mood when the devs were all previously so happy with the system.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

DanneSandin on 22 February 2013
Ljink96 said:
HD is good enough for me. As long as I play Super Smash Bros. by next year I'll be okay. I don't see why people are so immersed in power. Nintendo could easily make the most powerful console in the world but they're not trying to turn a console into a computer. If I wanted a PC I'd go get a MAC you know what I'm saying? Any video game company can make a powerful console. Nintendo isn't power hungry like some other people I know. They just worry about the most important aspect of gaming... the games! Who would have known!?

But you're missing the whole point: Nintendo is treating 3rd parties as shit. This isn't about teh mozt powaaah ful console, it's about why Nintendo don't get 3rd party support.



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Incubi on 22 February 2013
DanneSandin said:
Incubi said:

DanneSandin said:

even more troubling is that I just heard that Nintendo has canceled 2 3rd party games to the Wii U; 1 being exclusive and 1 being a multiplat. And these games are well known, popular titles by a major publisher. The exclusive games will now probably be heading to the PS360.

Really? Nintendo cancelling upcoming 3rd party games for WiiU? That does'nt even make sense.

I know, they're stupid as hell and really shooting themselves in the foot. And it's no small games either.

You misunderstood what I ment.



Cobretti2 on 22 February 2013
DanneSandin said:
Incubi said:

DanneSandin said:

even more troubling is that I just heard that Nintendo has canceled 2 3rd party games to the Wii U; 1 being exclusive and 1 being a multiplat. And these games are well known, popular titles by a major publisher. The exclusive games will now probably be heading to the PS360.

Really? Nintendo cancelling upcoming 3rd party games for WiiU? That does'nt even make sense.

I know, they're stupid as hell and really shooting themselves in the foot. And it's no small games either.


well how about you name this big exclusive.