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bananaking21 on 11 January 2013
Otakumegane said:
bananaking21 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

lets be honest, they kind of are. and thats quite sad. while mario still is the king of sales, what E rated game out there is selling good? skylanders is doing pretty good. littlebigplanet too. and lets just compare the number of released between adult games and E rated games. its quite sad there are a few games out there like sly cooper are getting released.  im mostly talking about games like mario and rayman legends that Wander is mostly talking about too. i wish things were different and we get more games like banjoo kazooi in the future


E-rated packaged console games on a decline yes, but for E-rated games in general, the market has never been bigger. Kids have access to Iphones and tablets now, I'm sure they spend a lot of time playing Angry Birds and Doodle jump and what not. 

I totally agree with you on decreasing sales for console games.

and thats just sad. i really miss games that arent about killing people. dont get me wrong, i love shooters and more adult oriented games. but heck when i look at sly cooper now its just different. the worlds are different, the gameplay is different. and we NEED that as an indusrty. and the only two who seem to be pushing and trying to do these types of games are nintendo and Sony. 3rd parties like EA and activision just keep making shooters, what a sad place we are in



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Jaywood2010 on 11 January 2013
bananaking21 said:
Otakumegane said:
bananaking21 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

lets be honest, they kind of are. and thats quite sad. while mario still is the king of sales, what E rated game out there is selling good? skylanders is doing pretty good. littlebigplanet too. and lets just compare the number of released between adult games and E rated games. its quite sad there are a few games out there like sly cooper are getting released.  im mostly talking about games like mario and rayman legends that Wander is mostly talking about too. i wish things were different and we get more games like banjoo kazooi in the future


E-rated packaged console games on a decline yes, but for E-rated games in general, the market has never been bigger. Kids have access to Iphones and tablets now, I'm sure they spend a lot of time playing Angry Birds and Doodle jump and what not. 

I totally agree with you on decreasing sales for console games.

and thats just sad. i really miss games that arent about killing people. dont get me wrong, i love shooters and more adult oriented games. but heck when i look at sly cooper now its just different. the worlds are different, the gameplay is different. and we NEED that as an indusrty. and the only two who seem to be pushing and trying to do these types of games are nintendo and Sony. 3rd parties like EA and activision just keep making shooters, what a sad place we are in


Sly Cooper never sold amazing in the first place.  Just another niche title.

1 Sly 2: Band of Thieves PS2 2004 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.88 0.69 0.00 0.23 1.81
2 Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus PS2 2002 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 1.03 0.14 0.00 0.04 1.21
3 The Sly Collection PS3 2010 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.34 0.08 0.01 0.06 0.48

 

 




       

Corey on 11 January 2013

If the quality starts to slack and the interest wanes mario could potentially become far less popular like Sonic, Mario is here to stay for many many more years but possibly to a lesser extent than he is currently.



bananaking21 on 11 January 2013
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
Otakumegane said:
bananaking21 said:

and thats just sad. i really miss games that arent about killing people. dont get me wrong, i love shooters and more adult oriented games. but heck when i look at sly cooper now its just different. the worlds are different, the gameplay is different. and we NEED that as an indusrty. and the only two who seem to be pushing and trying to do these types of games are nintendo and Sony. 3rd parties like EA and activision just keep making shooters, what a sad place we are in


Sly Cooper never sold well in the first place.  Just another niche title.

1 Sly 2: Band of Thieves PS2 2004 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.88 0.69 0.00 0.23 1.81
2 Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus PS2 2002 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 1.03 0.14 0.00 0.04 1.21
3 The Sly Collection PS3 2010 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.34 0.08 0.01 0.06 0.48

 

 

sly was just an example. but its not about sales alone, its about the number of games released like this. also crash, banjoo kazooi, ratchet and clank, spyro all used to sell very well. im just pointing out that these types of games are being released much now days



Jaywood2010 on 11 January 2013
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
Otakumegane said:
bananaking21 said:

and thats just sad. i really miss games that arent about killing people. dont get me wrong, i love shooters and more adult oriented games. but heck when i look at sly cooper now its just different. the worlds are different, the gameplay is different. and we NEED that as an indusrty. and the only two who seem to be pushing and trying to do these types of games are nintendo and Sony. 3rd parties like EA and activision just keep making shooters, what a sad place we are in


Sly Cooper never sold well in the first place.  Just another niche title.

1 Sly 2: Band of Thieves PS2 2004 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.88 0.69 0.00 0.23 1.81
2 Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus PS2 2002 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 1.03 0.14 0.00 0.04 1.21
3 The Sly Collection PS3 2010 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.34 0.08 0.01 0.06 0.48

 

 

sly was just an example. but its not about sales alone, its about the number of games released like this. also crash, banjoo kazooi, ratchet and clank, spyro all used to sell very well. im just pointing out that these types of games are being released much now days


Ratchet and Clank is on a similar trend as PS2's Ratchet and Clank.  The ones that dont sell are the ones that are knock offs and bad.  Crack in Time has sold more than 2m.  Banjo Nuts & Bolts was bad, Spyro has been bad, and Crash sucks now.  That is why they dont sell well is because they are simply bad games.  I can bring up more examples of games that are E rated that has done well than games that hasnt that use to and once again that is because they are no longer good.




       

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bananaking21 on 11 January 2013
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
Otakumegane said:
bananaking21 said:

and thats just sad. i really miss games that arent about killing people. dont get me wrong, i love shooters and more adult oriented games. but heck when i look at sly cooper now its just different. the worlds are different, the gameplay is different. and we NEED that as an indusrty. and the only two who seem to be pushing and trying to do these types of games are nintendo and Sony. 3rd parties like EA and activision just keep making shooters, what a sad place we are in


Sly Cooper never sold well in the first place.  Just another niche title.

1 Sly 2: Band of Thieves PS2 2004 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.88 0.69 0.00 0.23 1.81
2 Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus PS2 2002 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 1.03 0.14 0.00 0.04 1.21
3 The Sly Collection PS3 2010 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.34 0.08 0.01 0.06 0.48

 

 

sly was just an example. but its not about sales alone, its about the number of games released like this. also crash, banjoo kazooi, ratchet and clank, spyro all used to sell very well. im just pointing out that these types of games are being released much now days


Ratchet and Clank is on a similar trend as PS2's Ratchet and Clank.  The ones that dont sell are the ones that are knock offs and bad.  Crack in Time has sold more than 2m.  Banjo Nuts & Bolts was bad, Spyro has been bad, and Crash sucks now.  That is why they dont sell well is because they are simply bad games.  I can bring up more examples of games that are E rated that has done well than games that hasnt that use to and once again that is because they are no longer good.

thats a part of what im trying to say. publishers and devs dont try anymore, so the games sell less. so the market is actually getting smaller. sadly



solidpumar on 11 January 2013

I hate mario.



Jaywood2010 on 11 January 2013
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
Otakumegane said:
bananaking21 said:

and thats just sad. i really miss games that arent about killing people. dont get me wrong, i love shooters and more adult oriented games. but heck when i look at sly cooper now its just different. the worlds are different, the gameplay is different. and we NEED that as an indusrty. and the only two who seem to be pushing and trying to do these types of games are nintendo and Sony. 3rd parties like EA and activision just keep making shooters, what a sad place we are in


Sly Cooper never sold well in the first place.  Just another niche title.

1 Sly 2: Band of Thieves PS2 2004 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.88 0.69 0.00 0.23 1.81
2 Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus PS2 2002 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 1.03 0.14 0.00 0.04 1.21
3 The Sly Collection PS3 2010 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.34 0.08 0.01 0.06 0.48

 

 

sly was just an example. but its not about sales alone, its about the number of games released like this. also crash, banjoo kazooi, ratchet and clank, spyro all used to sell very well. im just pointing out that these types of games are being released much now days


Ratchet and Clank is on a similar trend as PS2's Ratchet and Clank.  The ones that dont sell are the ones that are knock offs and bad.  Crack in Time has sold more than 2m.  Banjo Nuts & Bolts was bad, Spyro has been bad, and Crash sucks now.  That is why they dont sell well is because they are simply bad games.  I can bring up more examples of games that are E rated that has done well than games that hasnt that use to and once again that is because they are no longer good.

thats a part of what im trying to say. publishers and devs dont try anymore, so the games sell less. so the market is actually getting smaller. sadly


I dont agree as XBLA, PSN, Steam arcade games, and Nintendo has all shown in the last generation.  All has been successful.  Just because Sony and Microsoft can't make a good E rated game with their first party doesnt mean that they are declining.

EDIT:  BTW Little big planet is another example of a big E rated game




       

JWeinCom on 11 January 2013
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
Otakumegane said:
bananaking21 said:

and thats just sad. i really miss games that arent about killing people. dont get me wrong, i love shooters and more adult oriented games. but heck when i look at sly cooper now its just different. the worlds are different, the gameplay is different. and we NEED that as an indusrty. and the only two who seem to be pushing and trying to do these types of games are nintendo and Sony. 3rd parties like EA and activision just keep making shooters, what a sad place we are in


Sly Cooper never sold well in the first place.  Just another niche title.

1 Sly 2: Band of Thieves PS2 2004 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.88 0.69 0.00 0.23 1.81
2 Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus PS2 2002 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 1.03 0.14 0.00 0.04 1.21
3 The Sly Collection PS3 2010 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.34 0.08 0.01 0.06 0.48

 

 

sly was just an example. but its not about sales alone, its about the number of games released like this. also crash, banjoo kazooi, ratchet and clank, spyro all used to sell very well. im just pointing out that these types of games are being released much now days


Ratchet and Clank is on a similar trend as PS2's Ratchet and Clank.  The ones that dont sell are the ones that are knock offs and bad.  Crack in Time has sold more than 2m.  Banjo Nuts & Bolts was bad, Spyro has been bad, and Crash sucks now.  That is why they dont sell well is because they are simply bad games.  I can bring up more examples of games that are E rated that has done well than games that hasnt that use to and once again that is because they are no longer good.


Nuts and Bolts was an amazing game.  So underrated.



TruckOSaurus on 11 January 2013
spurgeonryan said:
Never. Wasn't there a game " Mario is dead"?

Missing. Mario is missing is the game you're thinking about (although maybe the reason he's missing is that he's dead).



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