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Should we have tighter restrictions on what poor can buy?

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no 29 35.37%
 
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thranx on 11 January 2013
fordy said:

Over here, we add incentive to healthy food by exempting it from the GST. There are no food stamps here, but perhaps something similar can be done to achieve a compromise.

For instance, have food classifications and different kind of foodstamps. Foodstamps under, for example, class A can only buy fresh fruit, vegetables and meat. Class B could be stuff like Bread, Eggs, etc. A higher classification foodstamp (like junk food "C") can substitute when buying class "B" or "A" products, but not the opposite. Finally, regulate the foodstamps so like 90% are class A or B, and the remainder are class C.

Just a thought...

it varies by state. some do it that way as afar as i know. but there is always abuse. sometimes dishonest business owners will "cash" out food stamps at half the value.



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sethnintendo on 11 January 2013

I'm just going to repost the same message I put in another one of your threads.

I agree that food stamps should be limited to healthy food. I've seen plenty of times people load up on sodas, chips, and anything else unhealthy at the 7/11 and swipe their SNAP card. Papa Murphy's (take home pizza to cook in oven) shouldn't be allowed to accept food stamps either. Fruits, veggies, and meat is all you should be allowed to buy with a SNAP card at a grocery store (convenience store/gas stations shouldn't be allowed to accept SNAP). Buy everything else with your own money.



sethnintendo on 11 January 2013
SvennoJ said:
fordy said:

Over here, we add incentive to healthy food by exempting it from the GST. There are no food stamps here, but perhaps something similar can be done to achieve a compromise.

For instance, have food classifications and different kind of foodstamps. Foodstamps under, for example, class A can only buy fresh fruit, vegetables and meat. Class B could be stuff like Bread, Eggs, etc. A higher classification foodstamp (like junk food "C") can substitute when buying class "B" or "A" products, but not the opposite. Finally, regulate the foodstamps so like 90% are class A or B, and the remainder are class C.

Just a thought...

Or you can scrap foodstamps and replace them with food banks. That would create some jobs, provide a place to donate food and money too on a community level, and they can make bulk deals buying food to distribute amongst the most needy.

You ever been to a food bank?  They mainly give canned veggies, beans, etc and junk food that didn't sell in stores (discontinued).  I picked up a box or two while I was in college and believe me there is a lot of work to be done for food banks.  From my experience the food bank didn't provide anything that healthy or of much substance.



Chandler on 11 January 2013

Wow, you guys still have food stamps? That's so like, 1960 or sth.



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SnakeDrake on 11 January 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
fordy said:
LemonSlice said:

Well, I need the carbs, I don't care where they come from. I think I eat an abhorrent amount of food. I also were never fat, guess I'm not the type. I do have high cholesterol though, so I guess you have a point.

But if it's not junk food it's usually BBQ. I do eat lots of veggies, but they're only ever on the side plate.


Haha I really hate people who get to eat all they want and not gain a pound. So unfair :P

But you raise another good point, which is what amount of carbs are tolerable? The answer would be dependant on the person. Personally, I have to have little to no carbs in order to maintain my current weight.

What do BBQs there involve? A simple barbie here just involves cooking the meat outdoors as opposed to indoors. I couldn't see the unhealthy side of that, unless it involved lots of BBQ sauce..


Exactly, pulled pork smothered in BBQ sauce, beef brisket smothered in BBQ sauce, and ribs smothered in BBQ sauce.

Hot Dogs, Hamburgers, and brats... (only sometimes smothered in BBQ but not usually)

You guys should try out black pepper sauce its really delicious



 

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snyps on 11 January 2013

I know that in las Vegas nevada EBT (welfare checks) can be used in casinos, liqours stores, pretty much everywhere!

It's so stupid.



SvennoJ on 11 January 2013
sethnintendo said:
SvennoJ said:
fordy said:

Over here, we add incentive to healthy food by exempting it from the GST. There are no food stamps here, but perhaps something similar can be done to achieve a compromise.

For instance, have food classifications and different kind of foodstamps. Foodstamps under, for example, class A can only buy fresh fruit, vegetables and meat. Class B could be stuff like Bread, Eggs, etc. A higher classification foodstamp (like junk food "C") can substitute when buying class "B" or "A" products, but not the opposite. Finally, regulate the foodstamps so like 90% are class A or B, and the remainder are class C.

Just a thought...

Or you can scrap foodstamps and replace them with food banks. That would create some jobs, provide a place to donate food and money too on a community level, and they can make bulk deals buying food to distribute amongst the most needy.

You ever been to a food bank?  They mainly give canned veggies, beans, etc and junk food that didn't sell in stores (discontinued).  I picked up a box or two while I was in college and believe me there is a lot of work to be done for food banks.  From my experience the food bank didn't provide anything that healthy or of much substance.

No, but I've heard stories that what you get is far from ideal. Still that seems easier to improve then trust people to buy the right stuff. Most of the people I know that got into financial trouble did it themselves by spending beyond their means until the bills caught up with them. The food stamp system, how I understand it works, feels like throwing good money after bad.

A system like Fordy could work too but can easily become overly complicated. Before you know it we'll be giving out free iPhones with a food stamp app to keep track of what you can buy.

Having to rely on a foodbank is a bigger incentive to get into a better situation yourself.
In my opinion, normal social assistance should be a minimum from which a smart person can live. If you still screw up with that, then there is the foodbank.



hatmoza on 11 January 2013

Americans are okay. Despite the food stamps, they still have their Iphones.



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Branko2166 on 11 January 2013
Kasz216 said:
It's not surprising when you consider 1 out of every 6 people is on food stamps. It's only natural for kids to be more likely to be on that list since they contribute nothing.


Don't know what to make of this way of thinking.  What were you or any of us contributing to the economy as children. Unless you are advocating early employment for children I don't know how they could "contribute anything". I was always under the impression that childhood was the time to study and make ourselves ready to contribute as adults but it sounds like you may have a different perspective.

If you do please enlighten us.



 

 

Galaki on 11 January 2013

American culture seems to pride on fraud and cheat to get ahead.
People aren't going to change when "everybody else" does it.



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