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JGarret said:
sperrico, is Pikmin even a system seller?

Is not a huge system seller but can move the market enough when there are few Nintendo games available. I will give you an example/explanation... a lot of people who likes Nintendo games where looking for the Wii U, but the only Nintendo titles available were a 2D Mario than some consider fun but not a must buy and Nintendo Land a mini-game collection, there was nothing else and the only other thing to check out was ZombiU that got decent but not great reviews. So there is a group of people that withold their purchase (I did) till something else that shows promise is available, in my case that game can be Pikmin 3, in somebody else case it can be the Lego title and for others the Wonderfull 101 game.

By itself neither of the 3 exclusive games pending is going to be a system seller (maybe Pikmin 3 can reach 1.2 million sale LTD with luck), but together they can make more people interesed on the system.



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slowmo said:
kber81 said:

I have to admit I'm really pleased and surprised with PS3 performance. I think most of our regular 360 supporters didn't expect such an outcome. The lead of PS3 was supposed to vanish during holiday period.


I think most people expected the 360 to have a global price cut too.  The only region it did get a price cut (albeit temporary) it easily outsold the PS3.  Sony and Microsoft both made mistakes, Sony should have released the 12GB in the US and Europe should have been given a proper price cut by Microsoft.  I think the inevitable 360 price cut next year will mean the PS3 will have to wait till 2014 before it can overtake, it needed to do better over the holidays to overtake in 2013 imo.  

It does seem interesting that launch aligned the PS3 is declining quicker now.  Its been a strange generation.

A price cut for XBox 360 at this point would do absolutely nothing



pezus said:
osed125 said:

Funny how people only mentioned the Wii U bad sales in Europe and compare it to the Vita....according to VGC Europe is the world.

Anyway, bad Wii U sales in Europe, Nintendo most do something about it, but nice sales in both North America and Japan. The 3DS is simple a beast, at this rate it could very well sell more units than the DS lifetime. 

Weren't multiple threads made about 3DS selling >20 times more than Vita in Japan? I see nothing wrong with mentioning WiiU sales in a weekly sales thread. They are bad, worse than Vita and we all know Vita is doing horribly.

Probably, but I don't believe that if a console/handheld is doing bad in one region it means the console/handheld is a flop, just look at the 360 numbers in Japan, that doesn't stop it from selling 70m units already. The most important numbers are the WW ones.

Analyzing why the console is doing bad in one region is fine (I myself made a thread asking why the Wii U is selling so poorly in Europe) but when the overall numbers are fine I don't see the big deal. 



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pezus said:
slowmo said:
kber81 said:

I have to admit I'm really pleased and surprised with PS3 performance. I think most of our regular 360 supporters didn't expect such an outcome. The lead of PS3 was supposed to vanish during holiday period.


I think most people expected the 360 to have a global price cut too.  The only region it did get a price cut (albeit temporary) it easily outsold the PS3.  Sony and Microsoft both made mistakes, Sony should have released the 12GB in the US and Europe should have been given a proper price cut by Microsoft.  I think the inevitable 360 price cut next year will mean the PS3 will have to wait till 2014 before it can overtake, it needed to do better over the holidays to overtake in 2013 imo.  

It does seem interesting that launch aligned the PS3 is declining quicker now.  Its been a strange generation.

Launch aligned PS3 is also quite a few millions ahead. Saturation, I guess


It was tongue in cheek   

It does show that while people think the 360 hasn't done as well this year, the main reason is saturation and natural decline which the PS3 also has given the decline when compared to launch aligned figures.  The PS3 will have a similar 25% decline next year as games aren't going to sell enough systems alone.  Sub 10 million figures for both systems next year.



VGKing said:
slowmo said:
kber81 said:

I have to admit I'm really pleased and surprised with PS3 performance. I think most of our regular 360 supporters didn't expect such an outcome. The lead of PS3 was supposed to vanish during holiday period.


I think most people expected the 360 to have a global price cut too.  The only region it did get a price cut (albeit temporary) it easily outsold the PS3.  Sony and Microsoft both made mistakes, Sony should have released the 12GB in the US and Europe should have been given a proper price cut by Microsoft.  I think the inevitable 360 price cut next year will mean the PS3 will have to wait till 2014 before it can overtake, it needed to do better over the holidays to overtake in 2013 imo.  

It does seem interesting that launch aligned the PS3 is declining quicker now.  Its been a strange generation.

A price cut for XBox 360 at this point would do absolutely nothing


Keep dreaming...



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So vita sold more than wiiu in Europe, but got beat down in the other 2 markets. check!



One more week left in the calender, here's hoping the couple of days leading up to Christmas will bring us all surprises next week. Whether you cheer for Sony, root for MSFT or just adore Nintendo, a healthy video game market will incentivize more investments and kure more talent to this industry. Happy New Year to all of you!!!



slowmo said:
VGKing said:
slowmo said:
kber81 said:

I have to admit I'm really pleased and surprised with PS3 performance. I think most of our regular 360 supporters didn't expect such an outcome. The lead of PS3 was supposed to vanish during holiday period.


I think most people expected the 360 to have a global price cut too.  The only region it did get a price cut (albeit temporary) it easily outsold the PS3.  Sony and Microsoft both made mistakes, Sony should have released the 12GB in the US and Europe should have been given a proper price cut by Microsoft.  I think the inevitable 360 price cut next year will mean the PS3 will have to wait till 2014 before it can overtake, it needed to do better over the holidays to overtake in 2013 imo.  

It does seem interesting that launch aligned the PS3 is declining quicker now.  Its been a strange generation.

A price cut for XBox 360 at this point would do absolutely nothing


Keep dreaming...

LOL. The 360 had a price cut this holiday and yet it still declined massively YOY.



slowmo said:
pezus said:
slowmo said:
kber81 said:

I have to admit I'm really pleased and surprised with PS3 performance. I think most of our regular 360 supporters didn't expect such an outcome. The lead of PS3 was supposed to vanish during holiday period.


I think most people expected the 360 to have a global price cut too.  The only region it did get a price cut (albeit temporary) it easily outsold the PS3.  Sony and Microsoft both made mistakes, Sony should have released the 12GB in the US and Europe should have been given a proper price cut by Microsoft.  I think the inevitable 360 price cut next year will mean the PS3 will have to wait till 2014 before it can overtake, it needed to do better over the holidays to overtake in 2013 imo.  

It does seem interesting that launch aligned the PS3 is declining quicker now.  Its been a strange generation.

Launch aligned PS3 is also quite a few millions ahead. Saturation, I guess


It was tongue in cheek   

It does show that while people think the 360 hasn't done as well this year, the main reason is saturation and natural decline which the PS3 also has given the decline when compared to launch aligned figures.  The PS3 will have a similar 25% decline next year as games aren't going to sell enough systems alone.  Sub 10 million figures for both systems next year.

For 360 yes, but PS3 has a chance to be above it. Pretty good one.



Next week will be interesting. Will sales go up in the UK?



 

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