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KeptoKnight said:



S.T.A.G.E. said:




KeptoKnight said:









Yes it is nonsensical. You still haven't provided what "outshine" means.
Wii already beat them down. Wii-U is here to go against all odds as well as Orbis and Durango (software, hardware and profitability) when they arrive. Software sales alone is a humiliation.
**By the time Orbis and Durango arrives.....its all straight profit for the big N.




The Wii won and no one is doubting that. That is purely attributed to the simplicity and marketability of the Wii to casuals, but can you truly attest that the Wii U has the same marketability seeing the markets Nintendo is now focusing on? I am not talking about the Wii's dominance but rather how their new gen console is competing with current gen consoles with a similar library and on a similiar graphics level. If Nintendo is going to play that game with Sony and Microsoft they better get third parties to support the Wii with the top titles that are console sellers on the other consoles. The first job was done with COD, but what of GTA next  year? These might not be console sellers, but what of Tomb Raider, Crysis 3 and Bioshock Infinite? Timed exclusives for the 360's initial third party titles helped them take marketshare from Sony which they formed when they joined. Nintendo could well take core Nintendo fans from Microsoft and Sony in the future, but as it stands now if they cant cover all of the top multiplats that are on the PS3 and 360 they wont cut it when the new consoles come unless its dumbed down and the Wii U controller special versions are made to make the Wii U shine in a way Kinect could never do for Microsoft.




Too many ifs, buts, could and what not.
Go over this thread..http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=147821&page=1

I so agree with this. Everyone on this thread should check out the link. I'm wondering myself just what Sony are going to do next gen. Surely they can't afford to release a super powerful console? If they go for profitability then few people will buy it but if they decide to take a financial hit for each console sold then that could be financial suicide? Am starting to wonder if they will even do the unthinkable and sit next gen out given huge r & d costs too. The only other alternative they have is to release a cheaper, less powerful console.



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Somini said:
It's mostly pretty stupid to buy something expensive and return it so soon, which only means you didn't do enough research into the product. Other than that, it happens with every console and electronics out there and the WiiU is no exception.


Or maybe it was a present they didnt want. I saw a guy selling his  360 on craigslist since he got a PS3. Parents can be  wrong as well.



peachbuggy said:

KeptoKnight said:



S.T.A.G.E. said:




KeptoKnight said:









Yes it is nonsensical. You still haven't provided what "outshine" means.
Wii already beat them down. Wii-U is here to go against all odds as well as Orbis and Durango (software, hardware and profitability) when they arrive. Software sales alone is a humiliation.
**By the time Orbis and Durango arrives.....its all straight profit for the big N.




The Wii won and no one is doubting that. That is purely attributed to the simplicity and marketability of the Wii to casuals, but can you truly attest that the Wii U has the same marketability seeing the markets Nintendo is now focusing on? I am not talking about the Wii's dominance but rather how their new gen console is competing with current gen consoles with a similar library and on a similiar graphics level. If Nintendo is going to play that game with Sony and Microsoft they better get third parties to support the Wii with the top titles that are console sellers on the other consoles. The first job was done with COD, but what of GTA next  year? These might not be console sellers, but what of Tomb Raider, Crysis 3 and Bioshock Infinite? Timed exclusives for the 360's initial third party titles helped them take marketshare from Sony which they formed when they joined. Nintendo could well take core Nintendo fans from Microsoft and Sony in the future, but as it stands now if they cant cover all of the top multiplats that are on the PS3 and 360 they wont cut it when the new consoles come unless its dumbed down and the Wii U controller special versions are made to make the Wii U shine in a way Kinect could never do for Microsoft.




Too many ifs, buts, could and what not.
Go over this thread..http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=147821&page=1

I so agree with this. Everyone on this thread should check out the link. I'm wondering myself just what Sony are going to do next gen. Surely they can't afford to release a super powerful console? If they go for profitability then few people will buy it but if they decide to take a financial hit for each console sold then that could be financial suicide? Am starting to wonder if they will even do the unthinkable and sit next gen out given huge r & d costs too. The only other alternative they have is to release a cheaper, less powerful console.


You guys must've forgotten that Sony is focusing squarely on their game division now that they lost so much money elsewhere. They stated they will be making cuts in the game division focusing on the games that sell well in the same vein as Microsoft but they will never cut back to such a small amount of exclusives as them either. The cutting back will help them focus on the new system, and they are having their console made by their western branch of Sony.



Maybe they got turned off by the horrible loading times or the huge firmware updates? Or hey, maybe they got it for Christmas and didn't want it.....



There's cutbacks though and then there's the position Sony's in. Will cutbacks be enough and will there be boardroom investors being massively against Ps4?



DON'T WIN ME CHIBI BUDDY DON'T WIN ME.

ANIMAL CROSSING NEW LEAF FRIEND CODE:- 5129 1175 1029. MESSAGE ME.
ANDY MURRAY:- GRAND SLAM WINNER!

In my opinion the N64 was not just the best console of the 5th gen but, to this day the best console ever created!

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peachbuggy said:
There's cutbacks though and then there's the position Sony's in. Will cutbacks be enough and will there be boardroom investors being massively against Ps4?


Look at how many first party IP's Sony has made themselves vs Microsoft. Spending cuts could help them out big time. 



Seeing that people will pay 60$ for a game only to go sell it for 15-20$ in credit at Gamestop and lose over 40$ per game in the process i'm not exactly surprised that people are being this stupid with their money.



EdHieron said:
gronk-bonk said:
EdHieron said:
gronk-bonk said:
KeptoKnight said:
EdHieron said:

Yeah and it's doomed to failure.  It was the casuals that inflated the Wii's numbers not the 3d Mario and Zelda fans and when Sony and Microsoft finally released devices of their own geared towards the Casuals that was the death knell for the Wii.  Just like the Wii, the Wii U's only a step up from the current gen.  720 and PS4 will launch at $400 with all the top true exclusives of the coming gen, and Nintendo will be a third party developer mainly for mobile devices in the next gen. after the one that will start when 720 and PS4 release.

o sweet Jesus....what a post.

oh ive heard that claim many times since the days of the n64. I get a good laugh. Nintendo has been doomed since 2002 :)


It was putoff by them putting out a console that didn't appeal to gamers and that as a result turned out to be the first console from the current gen ( if you really want to count it as one and I'm sure that whether or not it really was one will be argued for and against for  quite a long time )  that turned out to be the first one of them to die in the marketplace.

sorry i don't understand what you wrote. 

Could you explain more coherently and concise

 

The Wii U is destined to be the Dreamcast of the next console generation.


ok, you can live in that imaginitive world. I'll be here laughing in realistic world where common sense and logic prevails. :)



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Ninjablade wins if the next 5 multiplat on the wii u are inferior to the 360 version.

I win if one of the 5 mulitplats are on par or superior on the Wii U.

peachbuggy said:
There's cutbacks though and then there's the position Sony's in. Will cutbacks be enough and will there be boardroom investors being massively against Ps4?


Gaming is one of the departments Sony is focused on 2 help them out, boardroom investors would not be against the PS brand in anyway.



 

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