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Jaywood2010 on 18 December 2012
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Ugh another PSN and XBL thread, this is only going to have arguments in it.

XBL already has more features than PSN and is respected even with a price. If it was free then their would be no reason to even compare PSN and XBL. With that said PSN will add more features in the PS4 PSN and close that gap too. However here is my predictions.

XBL will be adding the multimedia service which will be it's biggest difference. Cable, Movies, Internet, all in one. Kinect is now a keyboard, mouse, and remote in a way.

PSN will be adding PS+ as the online service and they willbe adding party chat. PSN+ will be a paid subscription next generation but at a cheaper cost than XBL.

In the end these are two totally different services. XBL has XBLA, Halo, Gears, Party chat, and so much more atm that PSN doesnt have but on the other hand things could change next generation so it is too hard to predict accurately. I stated my prediction though.

so basically party chat considering they both have exclusives and PSN has dowloadable games like XBLA

Not exactly.  XBLA and games like Halo and Gears are important to online communities.  Sony hasn't really brought a big multiplayer title this gen.  They have been moderetely successful at times with Killzone and resistance but failed at the same time.  

The point of my comment was not to compare the two though, it was more of a prediction than anything.  This generation, like it or not but XBL has more success with online and it's multiplayer.  Next generation that could change though.

hopefully they will launch at the same time and at similar prices so people will look at factors like games and online cost that may have been secondary this gen for the mass audience (not saying Sony has better games for everyone, but I feel like a lot of people just wanted to play COD and their friends already had 360s or it was cheaper)


I agree and disagree.  one reason XBL is popular is because of people's friends, but XBL also has the bigger brand name and will likely be moving into next gen with that on it's side.  FPS games are more popular in america so it'll most likely stay this way.  However that is not my point.  You are correct about the friend thing in away.

Looking at the rumors and if you believe them to be true, Sony will be the last out of the gate again although it wont be as long next time although I don't believe it'll be a full year this time like last time.  

EDIT: Regarding CoD btw, CoD has timed exclusive content with MSFT which also helps.  That and controller preferences.  Americans seem to like 360's controler more so it isn't just one thing that is keeping CoD of reaching 360's heights.




       

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platformmaster918 on 18 December 2012
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Ugh another PSN and XBL thread, this is only going to have arguments in it.

XBL already has more features than PSN and is respected even with a price. If it was free then their would be no reason to even compare PSN and XBL. With that said PSN will add more features in the PS4 PSN and close that gap too. However here is my predictions.

XBL will be adding the multimedia service which will be it's biggest difference. Cable, Movies, Internet, all in one. Kinect is now a keyboard, mouse, and remote in a way.

PSN will be adding PS+ as the online service and they willbe adding party chat. PSN+ will be a paid subscription next generation but at a cheaper cost than XBL.

In the end these are two totally different services. XBL has XBLA, Halo, Gears, Party chat, and so much more atm that PSN doesnt have but on the other hand things could change next generation so it is too hard to predict accurately. I stated my prediction though.

so basically party chat considering they both have exclusives and PSN has dowloadable games like XBLA

Not exactly.  XBLA and games like Halo and Gears are important to online communities.  Sony hasn't really brought a big multiplayer title this gen.  They have been moderetely successful at times with Killzone and resistance but failed at the same time.  

The point of my comment was not to compare the two though, it was more of a prediction than anything.  This generation, like it or not but XBL has more success with online and it's multiplayer.  Next generation that could change though.

hopefully they will launch at the same time and at similar prices so people will look at factors like games and online cost that may have been secondary this gen for the mass audience (not saying Sony has better games for everyone, but I feel like a lot of people just wanted to play COD and their friends already had 360s or it was cheaper)


I agree and disagree.  one reason XBL is popular is because of people's friends, but XBL also has the bigger brand name and will likely be moving into next gen with that on it's side.  FPS games are more popular in america so it'll most likely stay this way.  However that is not my point.  You are correct about the friend thing in away.

Looking at the rumors and if you believe them to be true, Sony will be the last out of the gate again although it wont be as long next time although I don't believe it'll be a full year this time like last time.  

EDIT: Regarding CoD btw, CoD has timed exclusive content with MSFT which also helps.  That and controller preferences.  Americans seem to like 360's controler more so it isn't just one thing that is keeping CoD of reaching 360's heights.

I have no doubt 360 will win NA again, but it's all about by how much.  Right now the gap is about 15 million.  That's a pretty huge difference but given the major mistakes Sony made this gen I'm not really surprised by it.  I would disagree with the release schedule however.  It seems Sony will come out next Fall with the final dev kits going out in Summer like WiiU's did this past Summer.  Sony confirmed last E3 that "the machine" was already having games made on it fairly casually so hopefully they will be out the same time.  I expect Microsoft's to be more powerful but not so much that they will get exclusive 3rd party support so it should only be noticable if you look at Halo or Gears next gen (ask Sony or Nintendo how nice being the most powerful is) so I really don't see MS dominating as most people seem to think (not you just the general feeling I've been getting from the gaming community these days)




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Jaywood2010 on 18 December 2012
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Ugh another PSN and XBL thread, this is only going to have arguments in it.

XBL already has more features than PSN and is respected even with a price. If it was free then their would be no reason to even compare PSN and XBL. With that said PSN will add more features in the PS4 PSN and close that gap too. However here is my predictions.

XBL will be adding the multimedia service which will be it's biggest difference. Cable, Movies, Internet, all in one. Kinect is now a keyboard, mouse, and remote in a way.

PSN will be adding PS+ as the online service and they willbe adding party chat. PSN+ will be a paid subscription next generation but at a cheaper cost than XBL.

In the end these are two totally different services. XBL has XBLA, Halo, Gears, Party chat, and so much more atm that PSN doesnt have but on the other hand things could change next generation so it is too hard to predict accurately. I stated my prediction though.

so basically party chat considering they both have exclusives and PSN has dowloadable games like XBLA

Not exactly.  XBLA and games like Halo and Gears are important to online communities.  Sony hasn't really brought a big multiplayer title this gen.  They have been moderetely successful at times with Killzone and resistance but failed at the same time.  

The point of my comment was not to compare the two though, it was more of a prediction than anything.  This generation, like it or not but XBL has more success with online and it's multiplayer.  Next generation that could change though.

hopefully they will launch at the same time and at similar prices so people will look at factors like games and online cost that may have been secondary this gen for the mass audience (not saying Sony has better games for everyone, but I feel like a lot of people just wanted to play COD and their friends already had 360s or it was cheaper)


I agree and disagree.  one reason XBL is popular is because of people's friends, but XBL also has the bigger brand name and will likely be moving into next gen with that on it's side.  FPS games are more popular in america so it'll most likely stay this way.  However that is not my point.  You are correct about the friend thing in away.

Looking at the rumors and if you believe them to be true, Sony will be the last out of the gate again although it wont be as long next time although I don't believe it'll be a full year this time like last time.  

EDIT: Regarding CoD btw, CoD has timed exclusive content with MSFT which also helps.  That and controller preferences.  Americans seem to like 360's controler more so it isn't just one thing that is keeping CoD of reaching 360's heights.

I have no doubt 360 will win NA again, but it's all about by how much.  Right now the gap is about 15 million.  That's a pretty huge difference but given the major mistakes Sony made this gen I'm not really surprised by it.  I would disagree with the release schedule however.  It seems Sony will come out next Fall with the final dev kits going out in Summer like WiiU's did this past Summer.  Sony confirmed last E3 that "the machine" was already having games made on it fairly casually so hopefully they will be out the same time.  I expect Microsoft's to be more powerful but not so much that they will get exclusive 3rd party support so it should only be noticable if you look at Halo or Gears next gen (ask Sony or Nintendo how nice being the most powerful is) so I really don't see MS dominating as most people seem to think (not you just the general feeling I've been getting from the gaming community these days)

No i don't think domination at all.  However they have like 4 new ip's in the works that are suppose to be big once again so halo and gears is not the only ones.  Not my point though.  My point is off of the rumors it appears that PS4 will be late again. This is not my opinion, but rather speculation across the majorit of rumors.




       

Nem on 18 December 2012
VGKing said:
This isn't even worth discussing. They have no reason at all to remove the "pay wall".


Not worth discussing. Look at me buying a PS4 next gen instead of an Xbox360 i did this gen. Look at the hundreads of euros/dollars i would pay in the box and the manufacture cut on every one of the games i will be buying on the Sony console instead of the microsoft one. This versus a 60 euro a year fee they never managed to get from me. Yeah... i might just be one, but just with me they will be losing loads of money because of it. Apply that to everyone who is angry about it or find PSN alot more compelling... and its gonna be a joy to watch.

 

Maybe the issue becomes apparant if i spell it out loud?

THE XBOX720 DOES NOT HAVE ONLINE PLAY OUT OF THE BOX! 

That sounds worth discussing to me.



deskpro2k3 on 18 December 2012

expect to see lots of ads while playing games. I wont be surprised if the ad takes up the whole screen, and the game will be on the top right corner.




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dahuman on 18 December 2012

I'd have no problem picking up one if that's the case. I don't even care if they don't give me cross game chat.