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De-railment!!! Fuck the nix!!



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VicViper said:
Player1x3 said:

It is considered a first platformer by everyone. Just because it doesnt have elements from 'more modern' platformers, doesnt mean its not a platformer. Thats like saying Doom and Wolfenstein arent true FPSs because you cant regenerate health and aim down the sights

That's why on it's page it says:

Space Panic is a 1980 arcade game designed by Universal, which Chris Crawford calls the first ever platform game,[1] as it pre-dates Nintendo's Donkey Kong (from 1981) which is often cited as the original platform game.

I mean, if everyone calls it, then Chris Crawford (who) shouldn't have wasted his time.


man, use your beliefs from before searching "first platformer" on google and findind this to prove a point against the other post - you probably really wanted it to have some kind of jumping mechanic and real platforms gameplay right? Burger time is a platfomer to you?

your example would be true if wolfenstein did not have a "shooting device viewed from a first person view". Just like that text I used say: sometimes it's considered the first platformer, but the first true platformer is DK.


Oh...so it's not the ''true'' platformer. Oh ok i get it...its Nintendo who gets to define the genre and say what's true and what's not.

The point was, Nintendo wasnt first to use platforms in games and the post i quoted said otherwise. Whether or not you can jump was irrelevant. But you desperately wanted to twist this into something which would end up in ''AH BUT NINTENDO DID THIS FIRST!!!!11!11! despite this having nothing to do with post i quoted.

And btw, Alpha Waves isn't the ''true'' 3d platformer because you can't control the camera...and thus Mario 64 is the first 3d platformer !!!! Right?



Player1x3 said:


Oh...so it's not the ''true'' platformer. Oh ok i get it...its Nintendo who gets to define the genre and say what's true and what's not.

The point was, Nintendo wasnt first to use platforms in games and the post i quoted said otherwise. Whether or not you can jump was irrelevant. But you desperately wanted to twist this into something which would end up in ''AH BUT NINTENDO DID THIS FIRST!!!!11!11! despite this having nothing to do with post i quoted.

And btw, Alpha Waves isn't the ''true'' 3d platformer because you can't control the camera...and thus Mario 64 is the first 3d platformer !!!! Right?

Nope, never claimed that. Stop using this logic, because it only demonstrates you're the one using it (claiming Nintendo didn't do it just because they're Nintendo).

Well, I made my point, and rebuttted all your points, I think. Anyone who reads this decides who is right or wrong, you included. Levels don't make a platformer... or else you contradicted yourself using Pitfall. Pitfall is not a plataformer because there are the overlevel and underlevel. It is because you jump over logs, jump on alligator's heads and catch vines. That's why.

I don't know Alpha Waves and don't want to know to avoid another pointless argument with you. BTW, Mario 64 is not known for being the first 3D platformer, but the one that perfected the genre.



VicViper said:
Player1x3 said:


Oh...so it's not the ''true'' platformer. Oh ok i get it...its Nintendo who gets to define the genre and say what's true and what's not.

The point was, Nintendo wasnt first to use platforms in games and the post i quoted said otherwise. Whether or not you can jump was irrelevant. But you desperately wanted to twist this into something which would end up in ''AH BUT NINTENDO DID THIS FIRST!!!!11!11! despite this having nothing to do with post i quoted.

And btw, Alpha Waves isn't the ''true'' 3d platformer because you can't control the camera...and thus Mario 64 is the first 3d platformer !!!! Right?

Nope, never claimed that. Stop using this logic, because it only demonstrates you're the one using it (claiming Nintendo didn't do it just because they're Nintendo).

Well, I made my point, and rebuttted all your points,

Did you now? Ok, can you please repeat the part where you rebutted how Space Panic didnt use platforms before Nintendo?



Player1x3 said:

Did you now? Ok, can you please repeat the part where you rebutted how Space Panic didnt use platforms before Nintendo?


Now you're going back. I said...

You: "Yet, it has platforms"

me: "ok, I just don't see how those levels make it the first platformer"

Then you started your whole argument about it being one, which is the case in point.



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Panama said:
Galaki said:
Nintendo should sue everyone for using platforms in their games.

And then Atari could sue Nintendo. Watch out baby Atari is back in the console business.

They are? O_o



VicViper said:
Player1x3 said:

Did you now? Ok, can you please repeat the part where you rebutted how Space Panic didnt use platforms before Nintendo?


Now you're going back. I said...

You: "Yet, it has platforms"

me: "ok, I just don't see how those levels make it the first platformer"

Then you started your whole argument about it being one, which is the case in point.

So you did feel the need to spin this into somethin ''But Nintendo did this first'', otherwise you would just leave the discussion at the point where I said yet it has platforms