I'll go ahead and say that Xbox live online is garbage. It lags,there are no dedicated servers for almost any game. In fact I believe PSN has more games with dedicated servers than Xbox live does. Anyone who says PSN lags more than Xbox live is kidding themselves since both have most of their games run on PvP servers. With that being said... I do see value in Xbox live. I hardly pay over $35 for 12 months of Xbox live. With that $35 I get to hang out with most of my friends online, get to play halo multilayer online, watch TV on my Xbox by using it as a cable box(I don't have that coax output in my room), and generally 3rd party games run better on Xbox (see black ops 2). Also I really like the new Xbox live awards feature. Somehow I went from having 0 Microsoft points to having over 3000. I don't mind paying $35 for all of that.