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Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2012 NPD Thread - 360:1.26m, 630k<PS3<790k, 3DS:540k, Wii U:425k, Wii:420k, NDS:370k, PSV:>210k

maverick40 on 07 December 2012
ethomaz said:
Tagged drunk.


You are sooo cool.



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Turkish on 07 December 2012
thismeintiel said:
Well, the Nov gap between the 360 and the PS3 this year in the US has fallen from ~800K last year to ~500K. If we subtract the lead PS3 has in Japan from this number we get ~434K. Then factor in the lead the PS3 has in EU and we get ~278K gap in favor of the 360.

After adjustments are applied to the US, the PS3 should have a lead of ~1.46M for the year. I believe that numbers will be relatively flat MOM, at least in the US, so I think the PS3 will end the year with a lead of ~1.1M-1.2M.


How much will the overal gap be?



ZaneWane on 07 December 2012
Noobie said:
So PS3 is 750k to 790k?

none are official number



D-Joe on 07 December 2012

Black Ops II 7.5M
Halo 4 3.2M
Assassin's Creed III 2.9M
Need for Speed: Most Wanted 509k
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-12-07-halo-4-sold-3-2m-in-us-during-november

BO2 undertracked close 900k,Halo 4 undertracked around 110k(NPD numbers+>243k console bundle),AC3 spot on,NFSMW undertracked 140k



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yo_john117 on 07 December 2012
ethomaz said:
yo_john117 said:
Halo 4: without bundle > 3m (Just USA)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/51758/halo-4/USA/

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250594/halo-franchise-reaches-50m-next-title-in-early-development/


According to NPD Halo 4 is undertracked (cause the 3.3 million didn't include bundles) but according to that article Halo 4 is overtracked.

This makes no sense!

Just to you think...

Halo 3 without bundle: 3.3 million
Reach without bundle: 3.3 million
Halo 4 without bundle: > 3 million (it's not > 3.1 or 3.2 milllion... it's > 3 million)

Now compare this with VGC data for Halo 3, Reach and Halo 4... the NPD and article is right... Halo 4 is a little overtracked here... both showed that... it sold less than the previous titles but VGC is showing it sold on pair with Halo 3 for US only.

Like BLOPS 2 and all others titles except AC3, Halo 4 is down comparece with previous titles.

Actually I read that one chart wrong (I thought it was a NPD chart but it was really a VGchartz chart). 

I just saw D-Joe's post. Looks like Halo 4 is about 100k overtracked. 



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D-Joe on 07 December 2012
yo_john117 said:
ethomaz said:
yo_john117 said:
Halo 4: without bundle > 3m (Just USA)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/51758/halo-4/USA/

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250594/halo-franchise-reaches-50m-next-title-in-early-development/


According to NPD Halo 4 is undertracked (cause the 3.3 million didn't include bundles) but according to that article Halo 4 is overtracked.

This makes no sense!

Just to you think...

Halo 3 without bundle: 3.3 million
Reach without bundle: 3.3 million
Halo 4 without bundle: > 3 million (it's not > 3.1 or 3.2 milllion... it's > 3 million)

Now compare this with VGC data for Halo 3, Reach and Halo 4... the NPD and article is right... Halo 4 is a little overtracked here... both showed that... it sold less than the previous titles but VGC is showing it sold on pair with Halo 3 for US only.

Like BLOPS 2 and all others titles except AC3, Halo 4 is down comparece with previous titles.

Actually I read that one chart wrong (I thought it was a NPD chart but it was really a VGchartz chart). 

I just saw D-Joe's post. Looks like Halo 4 is about 100k overtracked. 

NPD doesn't count console bundle in ranking,so it's 3.2m+console bundle numebrs



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yo_john117 on 07 December 2012
D-Joe said:
yo_john117 said:
ethomaz said:
yo_john117 said:
Halo 4: without bundle > 3m (Just USA)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/51758/halo-4/USA/

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250594/halo-franchise-reaches-50m-next-title-in-early-development/


According to NPD Halo 4 is undertracked (cause the 3.3 million didn't include bundles) but according to that article Halo 4 is overtracked.

This makes no sense!

Just to you think...

Halo 3 without bundle: 3.3 million
Reach without bundle: 3.3 million
Halo 4 without bundle: > 3 million (it's not > 3.1 or 3.2 milllion... it's > 3 million)

Now compare this with VGC data for Halo 3, Reach and Halo 4... the NPD and article is right... Halo 4 is a little overtracked here... both showed that... it sold less than the previous titles but VGC is showing it sold on pair with Halo 3 for US only.

Like BLOPS 2 and all others titles except AC3, Halo 4 is down comparece with previous titles.

Actually I read that one chart wrong (I thought it was a NPD chart but it was really a VGchartz chart). 

I just saw D-Joe's post. Looks like Halo 4 is about 100k overtracked. 

NPD doesn't count console bundle in ranking,so it's 3.2m+console bundle numebrs

Why didn't NPD just say 3.2 million instead of 3 million + then?



D-Joe on 07 December 2012
yo_john117 said:
D-Joe said:
yo_john117 said:
ethomaz said:
yo_john117 said:
Halo 4: without bundle > 3m (Just USA)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/51758/halo-4/USA/

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250594/halo-franchise-reaches-50m-next-title-in-early-development/


According to NPD Halo 4 is undertracked (cause the 3.3 million didn't include bundles) but according to that article Halo 4 is overtracked.

This makes no sense!

Just to you think...

Halo 3 without bundle: 3.3 million
Reach without bundle: 3.3 million
Halo 4 without bundle: > 3 million (it's not > 3.1 or 3.2 milllion... it's > 3 million)

Now compare this with VGC data for Halo 3, Reach and Halo 4... the NPD and article is right... Halo 4 is a little overtracked here... both showed that... it sold less than the previous titles but VGC is showing it sold on pair with Halo 3 for US only.

Like BLOPS 2 and all others titles except AC3, Halo 4 is down comparece with previous titles.

Actually I read that one chart wrong (I thought it was a NPD chart but it was really a VGchartz chart). 

I just saw D-Joe's post. Looks like Halo 4 is about 100k overtracked. 

NPD doesn't count console bundle in ranking,so it's 3.2m+console bundle numebrs

Why didn't NPD just say 3.2 million instead of 3 million + then?

Because 3 million+ not comment by NPD lol,i mean he also said AC3 on 360 1m+ and on PS3 1m+,but is that mean both only little over 1m?



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yo_john117 on 07 December 2012
D-Joe said:
yo_john117 said:
D-Joe said:
yo_john117 said:
ethomaz said:
yo_john117 said:
Halo 4: without bundle > 3m (Just USA)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/51758/halo-4/USA/

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250594/halo-franchise-reaches-50m-next-title-in-early-development/


According to NPD Halo 4 is undertracked (cause the 3.3 million didn't include bundles) but according to that article Halo 4 is overtracked.

This makes no sense!

Just to you think...

Halo 3 without bundle: 3.3 million
Reach without bundle: 3.3 million
Halo 4 without bundle: > 3 million (it's not > 3.1 or 3.2 milllion... it's > 3 million)

Now compare this with VGC data for Halo 3, Reach and Halo 4... the NPD and article is right... Halo 4 is a little overtracked here... both showed that... it sold less than the previous titles but VGC is showing it sold on pair with Halo 3 for US only.

Like BLOPS 2 and all others titles except AC3, Halo 4 is down comparece with previous titles.

Actually I read that one chart wrong (I thought it was a NPD chart but it was really a VGchartz chart). 

I just saw D-Joe's post. Looks like Halo 4 is about 100k overtracked. 

NPD doesn't count console bundle in ranking,so it's 3.2m+console bundle numebrs

Why didn't NPD just say 3.2 million instead of 3 million + then?

Because 3 million+ not comment by NPD lol,i mean he also said AC3 on 360 1m+ and on PS3 1m+,but is that mean both only little over 1m?

Oh lol. Ethomaz got me to believe that was a comment from NPD.

Soooo. Undertracked?



D-Joe on 07 December 2012
yo_john117 said:
D-Joe said:
yo_john117 said:
D-Joe said:
yo_john117 said:
ethomaz said:
yo_john117 said:
Halo 4: without bundle > 3m (Just USA)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/51758/halo-4/USA/

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250594/halo-franchise-reaches-50m-next-title-in-early-development/


According to NPD Halo 4 is undertracked (cause the 3.3 million didn't include bundles) but according to that article Halo 4 is overtracked.

This makes no sense!

Just to you think...

Halo 3 without bundle: 3.3 million
Reach without bundle: 3.3 million
Halo 4 without bundle: > 3 million (it's not > 3.1 or 3.2 milllion... it's > 3 million)

Now compare this with VGC data for Halo 3, Reach and Halo 4... the NPD and article is right... Halo 4 is a little overtracked here... both showed that... it sold less than the previous titles but VGC is showing it sold on pair with Halo 3 for US only.

Like BLOPS 2 and all others titles except AC3, Halo 4 is down comparece with previous titles.

Actually I read that one chart wrong (I thought it was a NPD chart but it was really a VGchartz chart). 

I just saw D-Joe's post. Looks like Halo 4 is about 100k overtracked. 

NPD doesn't count console bundle in ranking,so it's 3.2m+console bundle numebrs

Why didn't NPD just say 3.2 million instead of 3 million + then?

Because 3 million+ not comment by NPD lol,i mean he also said AC3 on 360 1m+ and on PS3 1m+,but is that mean both only little over 1m?

Oh lol. Ethomaz got me to believe that was a comment from NPD.

Soooo. Undertracked?

Just a little i think

Don't expect VGC will change the numbers



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