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Dodece said:
I honestly have a hard time fathoming how some can be so oblivious to the financial situation that Sony finds itself in today. Sony knows their new handheld is flagging, and they know a real price cut would increase sales. The reason it hasn't happened, and isn't likely to happen is simple. Sony doesn't have the money to loss lead yet another device. It really isn't rocket science. Sony doesn't have the coffers it once had, and to be blunt aggressive price cutting is part of what has emptied them out.

When Sony is offering up nearly two billion in bonds. That if they don't meet the criteria of being junk are damned near to being just that. Then you shouldn't waste even a idle thought on the idea of Sony cutting the price on a product that actually makes them money. Seriously guys Sony is on the cliffs edge, and screaming for them to jump sounds almost malicious. Worse yet implying that a price cut is going to come is only going to encourage fewer people to buy the product.

You aren't doing Sony any favors.

Why should we be doing Sony any favors?  I don't want the Vita to fail or anything, but it's Sony's job to make the Vita a success, not ours.  Right now, Sony hasn't created a product or a software library that warrants a 250+ price tag, and accordingly we ask them to lower the price to reflect the value of the device. Sony's not helping me out with my personal problems, so i don't think I'm going to help them with theirs.



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Darc Requiem said:
Cheebee said:
Come now guys, don't judge it before it's had its first holidays period! That's preposterous!


The Vita is on it's second holiday season in Japan.....

Nahh... it released there at the very end of last year... that's not a whole season, preposterous!



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aikohualda said:
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No offense but your list reminds me why I'm not interested in the 3DS in the slightest. An uninspired ocean of remakes, ports and sequels. Developers need to focus more on new approaches to gameplay and original ideas. I have enough innovate new concepts to fuel a company like Activision or EA and I'm just some random guy who doesn't have anything to do with game development, what's wrong with these developers?

like uncharted, fifa, rayman, cod, assassin... uhmmmmm im confuse....

They're all sequels like he said, and none of them are the premier version of their title. People have rejected Uncharted and Fifa, and CoD doesn't live up to the name. The same Rayman is available elsewhere. So just Assassin's Creed then.



The Wii U will save the Vita. When developers get asked to develop for it they'll suddenly grow very interested in the Vita, it's fate afterall.



Tease.

just admit it vita fans.. vita has failed! .. the sooner you all accept this the less painful.. move on!



 

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Soleron said:
aikohualda said:
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No offense but your list reminds me why I'm not interested in the 3DS in the slightest. An uninspired ocean of remakes, ports and sequels. Developers need to focus more on new approaches to gameplay and original ideas. I have enough innovate new concepts to fuel a company like Activision or EA and I'm just some random guy who doesn't have anything to do with game development, what's wrong with these developers?

like uncharted, fifa, rayman, cod, assassin... uhmmmmm im confuse....

They're all sequels like he said, and none of them are the premier version of their title. People have rejected Uncharted and Fifa, and CoD doesn't live up to the name. The same Rayman is available elsewhere. So just Assassin's Creed then.

nope he was saying that for 3ds... im confuse cause psvita has been using the same strategy... so why use it against 3ds?



 

i always thought that outside the interwebz things didn't really matter if mum or dad was picking up a vita bundle at holiday time for their kid they would with a so called big name assasins creed or cod regardless of bad reviews but i guess no one really wants a vita is the main problem



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JWeinCom said:
Dodece said:
I honestly have a hard time fathoming how some can be so oblivious to the financial situation that Sony finds itself in today. Sony knows their new handheld is flagging, and they know a real price cut would increase sales. The reason it hasn't happened, and isn't likely to happen is simple. Sony doesn't have the money to loss lead yet another device. It really isn't rocket science. Sony doesn't have the coffers it once had, and to be blunt aggressive price cutting is part of what has emptied them out.

When Sony is offering up nearly two billion in bonds. That if they don't meet the criteria of being junk are damned near to being just that. Then you shouldn't waste even a idle thought on the idea of Sony cutting the price on a product that actually makes them money. Seriously guys Sony is on the cliffs edge, and screaming for them to jump sounds almost malicious. Worse yet implying that a price cut is going to come is only going to encourage fewer people to buy the product.

You aren't doing Sony any favors.

Why should we be doing Sony any favors?  I don't want the Vita to fail or anything, but it's Sony's job to make the Vita a success, not ours.  Right now, Sony hasn't created a product or a software library that warrants a 250+ price tag, and accordingly we ask them to lower the price to reflect the value of the device. Sony's not helping me out with my personal problems, so i don't think I'm going to help them with theirs.

Actually the Vita has a pretty good library for it not even being 1 year old yet. The $250 price point is perfectly reasonable for the hardware you're getting. I belive it's still being sold at a loss. So if there is a price cut, don't expect any more than $50.



JWeinCom said:
Dodece said:
I honestly have a hard time fathoming how some can be so oblivious to the financial situation that Sony finds itself in today. Sony knows their new handheld is flagging, and they know a real price cut would increase sales. The reason it hasn't happened, and isn't likely to happen is simple. Sony doesn't have the money to loss lead yet another device. It really isn't rocket science. Sony doesn't have the coffers it once had, and to be blunt aggressive price cutting is part of what has emptied them out.

When Sony is offering up nearly two billion in bonds. That if they don't meet the criteria of being junk are damned near to being just that. Then you shouldn't waste even a idle thought on the idea of Sony cutting the price on a product that actually makes them money. Seriously guys Sony is on the cliffs edge, and screaming for them to jump sounds almost malicious. Worse yet implying that a price cut is going to come is only going to encourage fewer people to buy the product.

You aren't doing Sony any favors.

Why should we be doing Sony any favors?  I don't want the Vita to fail or anything, but it's Sony's job to make the Vita a success, not ours.  Right now, Sony hasn't created a product or a software library that warrants a 250+ price tag, and accordingly we ask them to lower the price to reflect the value of the device. Sony's not helping me out with my personal problems, so i don't think I'm going to help them with theirs.

I think you are getting me wrong. I am not for the Vita or for Sony. I am however for reality. There are however some in this thread, or on these forums that do want the Vita to succeed, and their justifications for it doing just that. Always revolve around a price cut coming to the rescue. My point being that is isn't going to happen, and their perpetuating that story line is actually a self defeating act. I really could care less if they want to spin fairytales about their god rising from its grave, but when they are doing something so foolish as to keep tossing more dirt on that grave. Well it is so ridiculous it really warrants someone taking the time to point it out to them.

At the end of the day it isn't even about the Vita. There are a lot of people here who just root for the brand. In the same way some root for a local sports team. They don't necessarily care what happens to individual players. They just care about how it affects their team. To put it mildly a lot of them wouldn't give a flying fuck about the Vita if it didn't have Sony on the label. To them the Vita can only be a stain or a medal.



VGKing said:
JWeinCom said:
Dodece said:
I honestly have a hard time fathoming how some can be so oblivious to the financial situation that Sony finds itself in today. Sony knows their new handheld is flagging, and they know a real price cut would increase sales. The reason it hasn't happened, and isn't likely to happen is simple. Sony doesn't have the money to loss lead yet another device. It really isn't rocket science. Sony doesn't have the coffers it once had, and to be blunt aggressive price cutting is part of what has emptied them out.

When Sony is offering up nearly two billion in bonds. That if they don't meet the criteria of being junk are damned near to being just that. Then you shouldn't waste even a idle thought on the idea of Sony cutting the price on a product that actually makes them money. Seriously guys Sony is on the cliffs edge, and screaming for them to jump sounds almost malicious. Worse yet implying that a price cut is going to come is only going to encourage fewer people to buy the product.

You aren't doing Sony any favors.

Why should we be doing Sony any favors?  I don't want the Vita to fail or anything, but it's Sony's job to make the Vita a success, not ours.  Right now, Sony hasn't created a product or a software library that warrants a 250+ price tag, and accordingly we ask them to lower the price to reflect the value of the device. Sony's not helping me out with my personal problems, so i don't think I'm going to help them with theirs.

Actually the Vita has a pretty good library for it not even being 1 year old yet. The $250 price point is perfectly reasonable for the hardware you're getting. I belive it's still being sold at a loss. So if there is a price cut, don't expect any more than $50.


That's a matter of opinion, but I disagree.  Gravity Rush was ok.  LBP is good from what I've heard.  Aside from that, what compelling reason is there to buy a Vita?  Most of its best games are experiences that can be had elsewhere often in better form. The Vita's library right not does not justify a price that is equal to the PS3 and X-Box 360, more than the 3DS or 3DS XL, and 50 dollars less than the Wii U.  What's more troubling is that there aren't any real system sellers on the horizon either.  Perhaps I'd be more likely to buy a Vita if I were convinced that compelling software were on the way, but I'm not.   Sony's own studos have shown inconsistency with their Vita games, and I can't fathom why a third party publisher would want to develop for a system with high production costs and a low install base.  As far as I'm concerned, the Vita is not worth $250, and it doesn't look like it will be in the near future.