Note- I LOVED the original Deus Ex, but not the sequel. And it's more a shooter/ Action RPG than an RPG. Metacritic/ Wikipedia agree.

Same as how I wouldn't call Zelda an RPG.

pezus said: Conegamer said: pezus said: Conegamer said: As with other threads like this, how people can downvote Xenoblade, regarded by many as the best RPG of the gen, whilst there are still games on the list which aren't even RPG's, is beyond me. I have noted how the people who downvote it, in the majority of cases, don't even have a Wii in the first place, and, as such, can't make a subjective reason why it's the weakest RPG on the list. It's crazy. These things should have the best RPG's 'til last. That would be Xenoblade, Dark Souls, Disgaea, Radiant Dawn and Valkyrie Chronicles in the final 5. Let's see if that's how things pan out Who are you to say those are the best? Why not Witcher 2...Deus Ex...Mass Effect? RPGs are not just JRPGs Didn't like Deus Ex, haven't played Witcher 2, and Mass Effect is good, but not as good as the other 5 there. I'd say 2 is the best and would go 7th. Imo it is ME>ME2>ME3 but I know that is not the popular opinion. I also liked Oblivion slightly more than Skyrim (at the time I played Oblivion I enjoyed it more than when I played Skyrim). I'm sure we'll find some niche RPGs in the top 5 though, since no one bothers to downvote them.

Yep. It's why Platinum won the other thread.

I called it in post 350!

+Yakuza 3
-TLoZ:TP

pezus said: Conegamer said: pezus said: Conegamer said: As with other threads like this, how people can downvote Xenoblade, regarded by many as the best RPG of the gen, whilst there are still games on the list which aren't even RPG's, is beyond me. I have noted how the people who downvote it, in the majority of cases, don't even have a Wii in the first place, and, as such, can't make a subjective reason why it's the weakest RPG on the list. It's crazy. These things should have the best RPG's 'til last. That would be Xenoblade, Dark Souls, Disgaea, Radiant Dawn and Valkyrie Chronicles in the final 5. Let's see if that's how things pan out Who are you to say those are the best? Why not Witcher 2...Deus Ex...Mass Effect? RPGs are not just JRPGs Didn't like Deus Ex, haven't played Witcher 2, and Mass Effect is good, but not as good as the other 5 there. I'd say 2 is the best and would go 7th. Imo it is ME>ME2>ME3 but I know that is not the popular opinion. I also liked Oblivion slightly more than Skyrim (at the time I played Oblivion I enjoyed it more than when I played Skyrim). I'm sure we'll find some niche RPGs in the top 5 though, since no one bothers to downvote them.

Agreed, but too bad ME was so buggy on the 360. It's really hard to go back to after playing ME2 & ME3. The slow down was horible and the Mako sucked, but everthing else about it was awesome.

I like Skyrim, but I was not much of a fan of Oblivion. I loved Fallout 3 though.

Conegamer said: pezus said: Conegamer said: As with other threads like this, how people can downvote Xenoblade, regarded by many as the best RPG of the gen, whilst there are still games on the list which aren't even RPG's, is beyond me. I have noted how the people who downvote it, in the majority of cases, don't even have a Wii in the first place, and, as such, can't make a subjective reason why it's the weakest RPG on the list. It's crazy. These things should have the best RPG's 'til last. That would be Xenoblade, Dark Souls, Disgaea, Radiant Dawn and Valkyrie Chronicles in the final 5. Let's see if that's how things pan out Who are you to say those are the best? Why not Witcher 2...Deus Ex...Mass Effect? RPGs are not just JRPGs Didn't like Deus Ex, haven't played Witcher 2, and Mass Effect is good, but not as good as the other 5 there. I'd say 2 is the best and would go 7th.

Mass Effect is much better then any other RPG on this damn list. I haevnt played Disgaea or Radiant Dawn but I know Mass Effect is far better then Dark Souls and Valkyrie Chronicles and its even better then Xenoblade.

AndrewWK said: Conegamer said: pezus said: Conegamer said: As with other threads like this, how people can downvote Xenoblade, regarded by many as the best RPG of the gen, whilst there are still games on the list which aren't even RPG's, is beyond me. I have noted how the people who downvote it, in the majority of cases, don't even have a Wii in the first place, and, as such, can't make a subjective reason why it's the weakest RPG on the list. It's crazy. These things should have the best RPG's 'til last. That would be Xenoblade, Dark Souls, Disgaea, Radiant Dawn and Valkyrie Chronicles in the final 5. Let's see if that's how things pan out Who are you to say those are the best? Why not Witcher 2...Deus Ex...Mass Effect? RPGs are not just JRPGs Didn't like Deus Ex, haven't played Witcher 2, and Mass Effect is good, but not as good as the other 5 there. I'd say 2 is the best and would go 7th. Mass Effect is much better then any other RPG on this damn list. I haevnt played Disgaea or Radiant Dawn but I know Mass Effect is far better then Dark Souls and Valkyrie Chronicles and its even better then Xenoblade.

Again, opinions. Mass Effect is good, but it's not the best game on the list. That's Xenoblade IMO. Fire emblem should be there as it's the best SRPG and so addictive, the other games for the same reasons. But make no mistake, Mass Effect is DAMN GOOD.

Conegamer said: AndrewWK said: Conegamer said: pezus said: Conegamer said: As with other threads like this, how people can downvote Xenoblade, regarded by many as the best RPG of the gen, whilst there are still games on the list which aren't even RPG's, is beyond me. I have noted how the people who downvote it, in the majority of cases, don't even have a Wii in the first place, and, as such, can't make a subjective reason why it's the weakest RPG on the list. It's crazy. These things should have the best RPG's 'til last. That would be Xenoblade, Dark Souls, Disgaea, Radiant Dawn and Valkyrie Chronicles in the final 5. Let's see if that's how things pan out Who are you to say those are the best? Why not Witcher 2...Deus Ex...Mass Effect? RPGs are not just JRPGs Didn't like Deus Ex, haven't played Witcher 2, and Mass Effect is good, but not as good as the other 5 there. I'd say 2 is the best and would go 7th. Mass Effect is much better then any other RPG on this damn list. I haevnt played Disgaea or Radiant Dawn but I know Mass Effect is far better then Dark Souls and Valkyrie Chronicles and its even better then Xenoblade. Again, opinions. Mass Effect is good, but it's not the best game on the list. That's Xenoblade IMO. Fire emblem should be there as it's the best SRPG and so addictive, the other games for the same reasons. But make no mistake, Mass Effect is DAMN GOOD.

Xenoblade is great but the story didnt made any sense at the end. The first Mass Effect was good, but the graphics where poor and the gameplay bad but the 2nd and the 3rd are unique Master pieces. And what is an SRPG?

All I know is Mass effect 2 is nowhere near being the best RPG. A lot of RPGs are better than that, Demon's Souls, Fallout 3 and New Vegas for example. Mass effect 2 was a bunch of recruitment missions and loyalty missions tied together, along with the rare story mission in the middle or the end. The ending was cool though.

AndrewWK said: Conegamer said: AndrewWK said: Conegamer said: pezus said: Conegamer said: As with other threads like this, how people can downvote Xenoblade, regarded by many as the best RPG of the gen, whilst there are still games on the list which aren't even RPG's, is beyond me. I have noted how the people who downvote it, in the majority of cases, don't even have a Wii in the first place, and, as such, can't make a subjective reason why it's the weakest RPG on the list. It's crazy. These things should have the best RPG's 'til last. That would be Xenoblade, Dark Souls, Disgaea, Radiant Dawn and Valkyrie Chronicles in the final 5. Let's see if that's how things pan out Who are you to say those are the best? Why not Witcher 2...Deus Ex...Mass Effect? RPGs are not just JRPGs Didn't like Deus Ex, haven't played Witcher 2, and Mass Effect is good, but not as good as the other 5 there. I'd say 2 is the best and would go 7th. Mass Effect is much better then any other RPG on this damn list. I haevnt played Disgaea or Radiant Dawn but I know Mass Effect is far better then Dark Souls and Valkyrie Chronicles and its even better then Xenoblade. Again, opinions. Mass Effect is good, but it's not the best game on the list. That's Xenoblade IMO. Fire emblem should be there as it's the best SRPG and so addictive, the other games for the same reasons. But make no mistake, Mass Effect is DAMN GOOD. Xenoblade is great but the story didnt made any sense at the end. The first Mass Effect was good, but the graphics where poor and the gameplay bad but the 2nd and the 3rd are unique Master pieces. And what is an SRPG?

I must be in the minority that the ending of Xenoblade made sense, but I've done it twice now and seen it 4 times, so...

And it's a Strategy RPG. Like Fire Emblem, or Advance Wars. Both great series' BTW.

+ Tales of Vesperia

- Mass Effect 2