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logic56 on 29 April 2012
disolitude said:
logic56 said:
Soleron said:

That's what it costs Sony to have it made for them. This doesn't pay for a single SCE employee to exist, so consider they have thousands of employees in the Playstation division (for marketing, future R&D, testing, returns, firmware, etc) and add that to the cost.

The more Vitas they sell, the more  diluted those fixed costs are over each unit.  If they don't sell enough Vitas it should be obvious they'd make a loss even if each unit was very profitable.

WOW.... desperate

WOW.... vague

oh sure, but why stop there

from what I hear, they also have to pay to keep their lights on in all the various buildings that they own surely that factors into Vita cost as well, gas for all the company vehicles amirite yo amirite that factors into Vita also, frequent flyer miles for the VP of everything, that factors into Vita too, Kaz haircuts, oh and lets not forget their team of highly trained Recon Ninja's who sole purpose is to steal everything Nintendo does surly that goes into Vita as well, and other stuff I'm probably forgetting

so lets calculate

*pulls out calculator*

if we multiply bullshit, by you've got to be kidding me, added to you can't be serious divided by yeah he's serious, to power of WTF with a square root of FFS, you get a grand total of: That Desperate...

so uhhh unless my math is wrong, that desperate :/

 

edit: and I know you won't think it's funny...but I don't care, so sorry in advance



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ImJustBayuum on 29 April 2012
logic56 said:
disolitude said:
logic56 said:
Soleron said:

That's what it costs Sony to have it made for them. This doesn't pay for a single SCE employee to exist, so consider they have thousands of employees in the Playstation division (for marketing, future R&D, testing, returns, firmware, etc) and add that to the cost.

The more Vitas they sell, the more  diluted those fixed costs are over each unit.  If they don't sell enough Vitas it should be obvious they'd make a loss even if each unit was very profitable.

WOW.... desperate

WOW.... vague

oh sure, but why stop there

from what I hear, they also have to pay to keep their lights on in all the various buildings that they own surely that factors into Vita cost as well, gas for all the company vehicles amirite yo amirite that factors into Vita also, frequent flyer miles for the VP of everything, that factors into Vita too, Kaz haircuts, oh and lets not forget their team of highly trained Recon Ninja's who sole purpose is to steal everything Nintendo does surly that goes into Vita as well, and other stuff I'm probably forgetting

so lets calculate

*pulls out calculator*

if we multiply bullshit, by you've got to be kidding me, added to you can't be serious divided by yeah he's serious, to power of WTF with a square root of FFS, you get a grand total of: That Desperate...

so uhhh unless my math is wrong, that desperate :/

 

edit: and I know you won't think it's funny...but I don't care, so sorry in advance


Your post defy logic. Soleran's post was directed at overhead costs incur under the playstation division. Manufacturing companies do trace these costs back to products using an overhead rate. eg building costs, electricity, deliver costs..etc etc



mike_intellivision on 29 April 2012
Chark said:
ZaneWane said:
Turkish said:
PSV is making a nice profit for Sony with them games, 3G model and memorycards.

still losing money on each vita sold http://andriasang.com/comw7e/vita_loss/ 


No! Read the Reuters article that this article got its info from. Kaz says "turn a profit within three years of the body of the Vita sales". That does not mean that the Vita isn't selling for profit now and won't for 3 years. It means that in 3 years they expect the Vita to have brought in more money than it cost to make. That includes manufacturing, R&D, advertising, etc. 

Haven't I corrected you on this before or are you another victim of miscommunication created by terrible article writters on the internet.


If I recall that article, it was three years and 70M sold to turn a profit.

And profit here means positive return on investment, including covering sunk costs, which I am sure is part of Sony's (or any business's) calulations with a new product.

 

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logic56 on 29 April 2012
ImJustBayuum said:


Your post defy logic. Soleran's post was directed at overhead costs incur under the playstation division. Manufacturing companies do trace these costs back to products using an overhead rate. eg building costs, electricity, deliver costs..etc etc

and all those miniscule cost of the entire playstation division is added to the cost of the Vita.....yeah sure



Paul on 29 April 2012
logic56 said:
ImJustBayuum said:
 


Your post defy logic. Soleran's post was directed at overhead costs incur under the playstation division. Manufacturing companies do trace these costs back to products using an overhead rate. eg building costs, electricity, deliver costs..etc etc

and all those miniscule cost of the entire playstation division is added to the cost of the Vita.....yeah sure

I hear that majic fairies cover all of Sony's fixed costs. That's why Nintendo is currently losing money on the 3DS, they don't have any majic fairies.



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logic56 on 29 April 2012
Paul said:
logic56 said:
ImJustBayuum said:
 


Your post defy logic. Soleran's post was directed at overhead costs incur under the playstation division. Manufacturing companies do trace these costs back to products using an overhead rate. eg building costs, electricity, deliver costs..etc etc

and all those miniscule cost of the entire playstation division is added to the cost of the Vita.....yeah sure

I hear that majic fairies cover all of Sony's fixed costs. That's why Nintendo is currently losing money on the 3DS, they don't have any majic fairies.

magic

and whateveryousaybro hence my original comment

Sony can't be making money on the Vita because Nintendo is incompetent and have no faith in their own hardware leading to a massive as fuck price cut which also cut their profit margin 

the people who take the PS3 as the end all be all for powerful hardware design



Paul on 29 April 2012
logic56 said:
Paul said:
logic56 said:
ImJustBayuum said:
 


Your post defy logic. Soleran's post was directed at overhead costs incur under the playstation division. Manufacturing companies do trace these costs back to products using an overhead rate. eg building costs, electricity, deliver costs..etc etc

and all those miniscule cost of the entire playstation division is added to the cost of the Vita.....yeah sure

I hear that majic fairies cover all of Sony's fixed costs. That's why Nintendo is currently losing money on the 3DS, they don't have any majic fairies.

magic

and whateveryousaybro hence my original comment

Sony can't be making money on the Vita because Nintendo is incompetent and have no faith in their own hardware leading to a massive as fuck price cut which also cut their profit margin 

the people who take the PS3 as the end all be all for powerful hardware design

Can I ask you on off topic question? How did you come up with your user name?



logic56 on 29 April 2012
Paul said:
logic56 said:
Paul said:
logic56 said:
ImJustBayuum said:
 


Your post defy logic. Soleran's post was directed at overhead costs incur under the playstation division. Manufacturing companies do trace these costs back to products using an overhead rate. eg building costs, electricity, deliver costs..etc etc

and all those miniscule cost of the entire playstation division is added to the cost of the Vita.....yeah sure

I hear that majic fairies cover all of Sony's fixed costs. That's why Nintendo is currently losing money on the 3DS, they don't have any majic fairies.

magic

and whateveryousaybro hence my original comment

Sony can't be making money on the Vita because Nintendo is incompetent and have no faith in their own hardware leading to a massive as fuck price cut which also cut their profit margin 

the people who take the PS3 as the end all be all for powerful hardware design

Can I ask you on off topic question? How did you come up with your user name?

easy to remember and type in, what does it matter



Akvod on 29 April 2012

Not including labor or overhead.



Paul on 29 April 2012
logic56 said:
Paul said:
logic56 said:
Paul said:
logic56 said:
ImJustBayuum said:
 


Your post defy logic. Soleran's post was directed at overhead costs incur under the playstation division. Manufacturing companies do trace these costs back to products using an overhead rate. eg building costs, electricity, deliver costs..etc etc

and all those miniscule cost of the entire playstation division is added to the cost of the Vita.....yeah sure

I hear that majic fairies cover all of Sony's fixed costs. That's why Nintendo is currently losing money on the 3DS, they don't have any majic fairies.

magic

and whateveryousaybro hence my original comment

Sony can't be making money on the Vita because Nintendo is incompetent and have no faith in their own hardware leading to a massive as fuck price cut which also cut their profit margin 

the people who take the PS3 as the end all be all for powerful hardware design

Can I ask you on off topic question? How did you come up with your user name?

easy to remember and type in, what does it matter

It doesn't really matter at all, I just find it funny when I read your posts.