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Forums - Sales Discussion - PSV v 3DS v PSP v DS - TRUE Aligned launch - Week 80 update. BRUTAL

These graphs are more representative. Anyway Vita had an ok start, especially with far stronger competition on this market than in 2004 and other conditions like expensive memory cards and only two really mass-appealing games: Uncharted and FIFA, but it will steadily falling up until some big releases/announcements and things like price cut in foreseeable future. But this thing isn't "doomed" and will perform well over its lifetime alongside 3DS, I'm sure. And upcoming E3 is going to be really hot for Vita as well as for everything else - we are coming closer to the next generation after all.




 

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VicViper said:
Michael-5 said:
RolStoppable said:
Michael-5 said:

The Japan graph looks troubling, and with no major software titles planned....I expect a price cut for the PSV which will hurt Sony....again. Nintendo was smart selling the 3DS at $250 and then cutting the price to what they actually wanted to sell it for just before the PSV launched.

Yup, Nintendo's strategy was ingenious. They are making insane amounts of profits this fiscal year, because the 3DS will have shipped about 15m units during this period.

I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice what Nintendo did with the 3DS.

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Still PSV has a chance to do well. 360 and PS3 started off pretty slow, and now they are doing alright. 3DS might have some struggle time end of life because of the relatively low level graphics (that and some phones nowdays are 3D too!).

One of the advantages PS3 and 360 have over Vita is that they always had each other (aww). The user base was doubled for the big games.

Vita is alone. If a third party does a big game for it, it's for it only!

Vita has PS3/X360 - look at how many assets are shared in games ported from bigger platforms like UMvsC, BB, Rayman etc



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RolStoppable said:
Michael-5 said:

Konami has always been faithful to Sony, a PSV exclusive PSV is a given, but it won't help sales much...

I guess with MH4 as a 3DS exclusive, is PSV's life set in stone? Is it a dead system?

Maybe for PS4, Sony won't go graphical whoring...their best consoles had the worse graphics of the gen, and focused on games.

The PSV isn't a dead system yet, but it requires drastic measures to get it back on track. The questions are what will Sony do and when will they do it. They certainly can't sit idle and do nothing, if the PSV is supposed to have a life of five to eight years.

VicViper said:

I think Sony is willing to pay even more than Nintendo for this game. MH is no longer an investment for Sony, it's a strategical decision. They should pay what they can to have it, no matter how much money will be lost. Even Nintendo can't cover the price a desperate company is willing to pay for something it needs.

I assume the MH4 deal prevents Capcom from announcing any MH game for the Vita until a certain date. In this case Sony wouldn't only have to pay for Monster Hunter, but also for the costs that fall on Capcom for breaching their contract with Nintendo.

Maybe E3 Sony will announce a pileup of games. If they want to do well, I imagine they would, after all the last PSP game they released was God of War in 2010, and then 1 good launch title for PSV.



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VicViper said:
RolStoppable said:

It would be incredibly stupid of Nintendo to buy Monster Hunter 4 exclusivity only to allow some other MH game to be made for the PSV, so I wouldn't hold my breath. Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid are up for grabs though, so maybe Sony can convince Square-Enix or Konami to make a big exclusive for a system that will take a long time to hit the two million mark in Japan.

I think Sony is willing to pay even more than Nintendo for this game. MH is no longer an investment for Sony, it's a strategical decision. They should pay what they can to have it, no matter how much money will be lost. Even Nintendo can't cover the price a desperate company is willing to pay for something it needs.

Don't think Sony can do that. Over the last couple years Sony has been seriously loosing money. They don't have the leisure to throw cash around like Microsoft.



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RolStoppable said:
Michael-5 said:

Maybe E3 Sony will announce a pileup of games. If they want to do well, I imagine they would, after all the last PSP game they released was God of War in 2010, and then 1 good launch title for PSV.

Sony already released about a dozen PSV games.

Anything....good? Little Deviants was the biggest disappointment IMO, Hot shots Golf is shovelware. Uncharted is the only good game on PSV, and Resistance coming out will be game #2.



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psp was huge when it launched, even outpacing the ds until the lite version and pokemon released.



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Michael-5 said:
VicViper said:
RolStoppable said:
 

It would be incredibly stupid of Nintendo to buy Monster Hunter 4 exclusivity only to allow some other MH game to be made for the PSV, so I wouldn't hold my breath. Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid are up for grabs though, so maybe Sony can convince Square-Enix or Konami to make a big exclusive for a system that will take a long time to hit the two million mark in Japan.

I think Sony is willing to pay even more than Nintendo for this game. MH is no longer an investment for Sony, it's a strategical decision. They should pay what they can to have it, no matter how much money will be lost. Even Nintendo can't cover the price a desperate company is willing to pay for something it needs.

Don't think Sony can do that. Over the last couple years Sony has been seriously loosing money. They don't have the leisure to throw cash around like Microsoft.

Not going to be that way for long.

Their money troubles are getting much better with the inflating yen. Sony has said that they lose 6B yen for every 1 yen gain against the dollar. In the last month, it's dropped 6.4 yen. That's nearly 40B yen ie, 300 million dollars straight profit that Sony has made in a single month, if their statement was accurate.



RolStoppable said:
The PSP launched in the last week of March in America, so it's not a perfectly alligned launch like in Japan. This doesn't matter right now, but eventually it will become a little bit skewed (when PSP enters its first holiday while the PSV has still one slow month ahead of it).

What makes matters worse for the PSV is that you can't even make a chalkboard for it. There aren't many big/semibig games announced for it right now.



pezus said:
miz1q2w3e said:

B.E.L.I.E.V.E.

what?



Thank you so much for making this thread kowenicki. I had the exact same frustrations as you where in that news post there were so many people who had simply looked at the graph and gone ''Oh well Vita is actually doing amazing'' and were ignoring the differences in launch times.

Of course as others pointed out at some point you will have to add notes about timing differences with large sale periods. However in the long run it will average out. Keep the thread updated! You can do it!

I think the most worrying thing so far is that despite launching MUCH bigger in Japan the Vita is already considerably behind the PSP after 3 months and it's weekly sales are also lower. Whereas in America and Europe the vita has even launched much lower than the PSP and we will have to see how following weeks go.

Does illustrate quite nicely just how much hype there was for the PSP with Sony coming off the highs of the PS1 and PS2, with people hoping it would be a portable PS2. In contrast the Vita is launching at a time when Sony are in a much weaker market position.



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