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Vita could do as well as the DS and PS2 combined and not begin to fix Sony's problems



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Vita selling gangbuster won't be saving Sony as a whole.
They are broken from within and needed some whipping into shape.
Loss leader business model doesn't look like it's working for them anymore.



you know what happened to Sony ill tell you
the loss of crash spyro grand theft auto driver final fantasy and now specops

hit the company hard! and with mgs going to 3ds this is not going to be good for sony either.
but what can I say sony's the one that got on stage and priced ps3 at $599.99 and without must have titles . many people played motorstorm or uncharted for at least a freakin yr til mgs came out . lol
so i do not see this changing any time soon


on another note i think sony would be in a better position had they not got into the handheld market
it seams like a curse .

first sega now sony having problems just after having released a handheld. -psp ,. sure its sells are better then ps3 . but it really did not do much in the games department . and the ps3 just now got steam

but i think its too late. japan isnt helping ps3 any . -its mainly a handheld territory now and us wii and ps3 trade blows . recent charts actually show wii ps3 and 360 slow as heck . . as if the gen is wearing down . dispite ms announcments that 2011 was the best year it cant get any better.

i think 10 years is a stretch to wait for 720 or ps4. if any
especally if ms goes with a tablet controller,.
im already saying fuck it and just getting a wii u at this point even though i already planned that.

but this may make me not get all 3 next gen . why would i need 2 systems that do mostly the same freaking thing does not make since after all ms has hardly any exclusives any more they killed rare and

if sony does not start making right decisions . soon Nintendo will be the sole player .

while this sounds like a dream come true to me , (less money being spent) but there would be less competition -
and 400 dollar consoles throught an entire gen , though this has never happen with nintendo . theres no guarantee it wont

 

and i very highly doubt psvita will out sell 3ds .  for 4 big reasons

1 price! we already saw psp vs ds  it was the price  then  

2  battery life its already been tested and lasts 1 hour less then the 3ds on max settings ,. 

3  games line up ?????   this one is debatable which is why its 3

4 .. propriarity memory  cards manditory and expensive  for what l ittle space you get i dont care what part of earth your on for 250 you can get a 160 gig ps3 which is slightly more power ful w a hefty ps1-  and p-s3 library -at your- disposal  

 makes vita look like the rip off of the century

 



goldeneye0074eva2222 said:

and i very highly doubt psvita will out sell 3ds .  for 4 big reasons

1 price! we already saw psp vs ds  it was the price  then  

2  battery life its already been tested and lasts 1 hour less then the 3ds on max settings ,. 

3  games line up ?????   this one is debatable which is why its 3

4 .. propriarity memory  cards manditory and expensive  for what l ittle space you get i dont care what part of earth your on for 250 you can get a 160 gig ps3 which is slightly more power ful w a hefty ps1-  and p-s3 library -at your- disposal  

 makes vita look like the rip off of the century

 

Is that what people are setting as the measure of Vita's success? Vita doesn't need to outsell 3DS to be successful, though it does need to significantly outsell pre-pricecut 3DS to be successful.

But similar to what people have said before, if pundits are looking to Vita as the way for Sony to turn a corner to profitability then they are looking in the wrong place. Sony needs its TV and Vaio businesses to become profitable, or Sony is sunk.

@ Galaki: A loss leader business model for Vita would be fine and sensible, if their core business was profitable.



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goldeneye0074eva2222 said:

you know what happened to Sony ill tell you
the loss of crash spyro grand theft auto driver final fantasy and now specops

hit the company hard! and with mgs going to 3ds this is not going to be good for sony either.
but what can I say sony's the one that got on stage and priced ps3 at $599.99 and without must have titles . many people played motorstorm or uncharted for at least a freakin yr til mgs came out . lol
so i do not see this changing any time soon


on another note i think sony would be in a better position had they not got into the handheld market
it seams like a curse .

first sega now sony having problems just after having released a handheld. -psp ,. sure its sells are better then ps3 . but it really did not do much in the games department . and the ps3 just now got steam

but i think its too late. japan isnt helping ps3 any . -its mainly a handheld territory now and us wii and ps3 trade blows . recent charts actually show wii ps3 and 360 slow as heck . . as if the gen is wearing down . dispite ms announcments that 2011 was the best year it cant get any better.

i think 10 years is a stretch to wait for 720 or ps4. if any
especally if ms goes with a tablet controller,.
im already saying fuck it and just getting a wii u at this point even though i already planned that.

but this may make me not get all 3 next gen . why would i need 2 systems that do mostly the same freaking thing does not make since after all ms has hardly any exclusives any more they killed rare and

if sony does not start making right decisions . soon Nintendo will be the sole player .

while this sounds like a dream come true to me , (less money being spent) but there would be less competition -
and 400 dollar consoles throught an entire gen , though this has never happen with nintendo . theres no guarantee it wont

 

and i very highly doubt psvita will out sell 3ds .  for 4 big reasons

1 price! we already saw psp vs ds  it was the price  then  

2  battery life its already been tested and lasts 1 hour less then the 3ds on max settings ,. 

3  games line up ?????   this one is debatable which is why its 3

4 .. propriarity memory  cards manditory and expensive  for what l ittle space you get i dont care what part of earth your on for 250 you can get a 160 gig ps3 which is slightly more power ful w a hefty ps1-  and p-s3 library -at your- disposal  

 makes vita look like the rip off of the century

 

No offense, but I never understand what the hell you are saying. Try to put a little more effort into these responses.



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reviniente said:

BTW, What the hell happened to pezus? Haven't seen him 'round, cajoling his sour self recently´'round 'here for a while. Where are you, pezus, you biased, goofy islandic troll, you. Come back! You're missed!

how are you still here after calling another member a troll?



o_O.Q said:
reviniente said:

BTW, What the hell happened to pezus? Haven't seen him 'round, cajoling his sour self recently´'round 'here for a while. Where are you, pezus, you biased, goofy islandic troll, you. Come back! You're missed!

how are you still here after calling another member a troll?

Is not wrong if done lovingly.



goldeneye0074eva2222 said:

you know what happened to Sony ill tell you
the loss of crash spyro grand theft auto driver final fantasy and now specops

hit the company hard! and with mgs going to 3ds this is not going to be good for sony either.
but what can I say sony's the one that got on stage and priced ps3 at $599.99 and without must have titles . many people played motorstorm or uncharted for at least a freakin yr til mgs came out . lol
so i do not see this changing any time soon


on another note i think sony would be in a better position had they not got into the handheld market
it seams like a curse .

first sega now sony having problems just after having released a handheld. -psp ,. sure its sells are better then ps3 . but it really did not do much in the games department . and the ps3 just now got steam

but i think its too late. japan isnt helping ps3 any . -its mainly a handheld territory now and us wii and ps3 trade blows . recent charts actually show wii ps3 and 360 slow as heck . . as if the gen is wearing down . dispite ms announcments that 2011 was the best year it cant get any better.

i think 10 years is a stretch to wait for 720 or ps4. if any
especally if ms goes with a tablet controller,.
im already saying fuck it and just getting a wii u at this point even though i already planned that.

but this may make me not get all 3 next gen . why would i need 2 systems that do mostly the same freaking thing does not make since after all ms has hardly any exclusives any more they killed rare and

if sony does not start making right decisions . soon Nintendo will be the sole player .

while this sounds like a dream come true to me , (less money being spent) but there would be less competition -
and 400 dollar consoles throught an entire gen , though this has never happen with nintendo . theres no guarantee it wont

 

and i very highly doubt psvita will out sell 3ds .  for 4 big reasons

1 price! we already saw psp vs ds  it was the price  then  

2  battery life its already been tested and lasts 1 hour less then the 3ds on max settings ,. 

3  games line up ?????   this one is debatable which is why its 3

4 .. propriarity memory  cards manditory and expensive  for what l ittle space you get i dont care what part of earth your on for 250 you can get a 160 gig ps3 which is slightly more power ful w a hefty ps1-  and p-s3 library -at your- disposal  

 makes vita look like the rip off of the century

I understood your post perfectly

And while we're on the subject, great post!



The PSP Vita can still be a success. USA and European Countries will have their go at it, and a AAA+ game in japan can open a sales spike. Sony's downgrade has to feel like a hard blow to the stomach for the company.