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3DS OR PS-VITA...

3DS will beat PS-VITA. 197 42.18%
 
PS-VITA will beat 3DS. 205 43.90%
 
See Results... 64 13.70%
 
Total:466
Conegamer said:
3DS. It's always the games which count. We know so little about the Vita, so everything is either subjective or rumour, bar graphics (but, history has taught us graphics =/= good console).

I think psv will beat out 3ds in quality and quantity of games, psv unlike 3ds will have phone games, ps3/psv psn games and enhanced bc for psp games on psn (dual analogues will work) psv will also have more 3rd party support and nearly console level games, as well as more quality new ips (gravity daze is what I have my eye on) though 3DS has the universally known francises that sells 10 million but everyone already played them so I think people will start to get bored of them like I did 



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ThePS3News said:

Here are my results when comparing the 3DS To the PS3 as far as infomation presented is concerned

Price - Tie Yes, the lower end PSV (aka: the one I'm going to buy) costs the same as the 3DS.  What about the $300 3G version that requires a data plan?

Battery Life - Tie (Still dont really know the battery life for the Vita yet)  Yeah, we don't know but from experience with the 3DS, I can pull a lot more out of that battery than 3-5 hours, depending on the settings.  I also know that, from using a smart phone, the more things the device is doing at once, the faster that battery is going to die.  I'll go on record and say there is NO WAY the PSV's battery beats the 3DS, both with max settings and minimum settings.  Quote me on this.
Camera - Vita From what I've read in this thread, camera is a tie (both .3 megapixel) however, the 3DS takes 3D pics.  Maybe the PSV will record video.  Then again, maybe the 3DS will too via an update.
 
Power/CPU/GPU - Vita No arguement here.  The 3DS is a powerful beast, though.  The 3DS screen probably won't be as bright and beautiful as the Vita's either.  Even then, on the brightest settings, It's a thing of beauty.  Games in the launch window (Res Evil Mercs, Dead or Alive) are boasting graphics that can compete with the current HD systems, already.  I think the PSV and 3DS will be closer than you think in this regard.
 
Browser - Vita Too soon to tell. 
I'm sure the Vita takes it in this battle, though.  The 3DS ALREADY allows you to go on the internet and play a game at the same time.  Comes in handy when you're stuck in Legend of Zelda's water temple, I tell ya!  And again, it's upgradeable.  Wi-Fi can't compete with 3G, though.....unless you count speed.

Graphics - Vita Like I said, they're going to be pretty comparable (graphics=/= power?) in this regard.  It's going to come down to what developers do with that power.  Remember the PS2 was the weakest console last gen and yet God of War 2 could easily stand along side the best from the Gamecube and Xbox?  I bet it's the same thing, this time around.  You seem to be making the same mistake a lot of people are making and associating the name DS with poor graphics.  The 3DS isn't a slouch--but it's no PSV, either.
 
Design - Vita (My opinion) Your opinion.
 
Technology - Vita  What the heck does this mean?  Is it different from graphics?  3DS's motion controls and AR games are pretty spot on.  Touch pad, maybe?  Elaborate on this one, will ya!

Launch Games - Vita (This can change,But right now Vita seems to be having a good launch lineup)
  Vita's launch lineup will be facing the 3DS's full fledged lineup.  Nobody who buys the Vita is going to compare the games available for the system at launch to only games available during the 3DS launch!  Has the 360 vs PS3 taught you nothing?  Gears wasn't a launch game but it damn sure got compared to Resistance Fall of Man in 2006.
 
Portability - 3DS  Agreed.  But since I'm trying to disagree with you on everything you say, I'll disagree.  I carry my PSP and 3DS in leather cases.  I'll do the same with the Vita when I get one.  Yeah, I can fit the 3DS in my pocket without the case (exactly the same size as my DSi) but I won't.  I don't want to damage the finish on my portables.

Durability - Tie 
For some reason, I doubt that the portable with two analog nubs jutting out, an exposed touch screen on the front, and an exposed touch pad on the back is going to be as durable as the 3DS with its clamshell design.

Online - Vita  We don't know.  The 3DS's online is miles ahead of the PSP (and even the Wii), though.  I'm sure Sony will provide the better experience with the PSV.  Then again, the 3DS can evolve (it already has since launch).  It's got universal friends lists, tells you who's online, what they're playing, etc.  Wi-Fi play is pretty spot on and lag free.  I only wish the 3DS had messaging, voice chat, and online leaderboards.   All of these are possible on the 3DS--just not being done for some reason.

3D - 3DS (Obvious) No argument, here.

Features/Content - TBA (Dont really know the Vita's content and features yet. Netflix, Pandora, Ect..) Agreed.  And like the aquisition of Netflix on the 3DS has shown, just because a feature isn't available now, that doesn't meant it won't be available soon.  3DS has some interestingly quirky features, too.  I can't describe them.

 

Conclusion: As of right now, The PS-Vita is looking better than the 3DS in almost everyway shape, and form. I know Nintendo has always controled thehandheld market for gaming, But i really do beleive that the PS-Vita will dethrown Nintendo for handheld king once it releases. The PSP is still outselling 3DS in Japan and Europe right now which means that there is still life for Sony to take down Nintendo for the handheld market.

Though i am sure the 3DS will start to sell really well once Nintendo releases another Pokemon or Mario game. However i still think Vita has a brighter future ahead of it because it seems to be so much more promising.
What do yall think....

You asked what I though.  And in reality, it's going to be hard to argue with some of the features that I expect to be packaged with the PSV.  There are features (like being able to play movies from the memory stick, comic book reader, etc.) that the PSP have had for years that the 3DS doesn't even have, now.  There's a reason why I still carry my PSP around even after owning a 3DS for close to a month.  I'm hoping to be surprised by the PSV, too.  I'm just playing "Devils Advocate" and trying to show you that the desparity between the PSV and the 3DS are nowhere near as pronounced as you make it out to be. 

One thing that's the dark horse in all of this is this is the smartphone.  Almost everybody I know already has one.  Movies, music, web browsers, GPS, Skype, etc. are ALREADY available for us, on the go.  A lot of things that make the PSV stand out from the 3DS are nullified for a lot of people.  Simply comparing console vs. console, I'd be a fool to think the 3DS is going to beat the PSV when it comes to features.  It's just not as important as you think for a lot of people.  Especially the 3G feature.  How many people do you expect to purchase a PSV 3G plan that don't already have a smartphone with 3G and 4G?  3G is a great thing to have, don't get me wrong.  It's just not going to offer online gameplay (unless it's checkers or something--not Call of Duty) that a lot of people are thinking it will be.  Maybe 3G will prove its worth when it comes to downloading games or something.  And don't forget that a lot of people don't like being forced to go with AT&t.

Also, you left out quite a few PSV advantages (but since I'm taking the pro-3DS side, I'll leave it to you to find out what they were......).  And don't get me wrong.  I'm definitely buying a PSV.  I already own two PSP 3000's and I love them WAY more than I love my DS's (three phats, two Lites, and one DSi).  Like I said before, I'm just offering some opposition to your point view.  This battle is going to be won with games.  Whichever device has the best games for the most consumers will walk away with the title, this time.  Nothing is pre-determined.  Just keep in mind that, while we're waiting for the PSV to launch, the 3DS is already on the market selling, evolving, and entertaining......



angelsaremyplaything said:
Conegamer said:
3DS. It's always the games which count. We know so little about the Vita, so everything is either subjective or rumour, bar graphics (but, history has taught us graphics =/= good console).

I think psv will beat out 3ds in quality and quantity of games, psv unlike 3ds will have phone games, ps3/psv psn games and enhanced bc for psp games on psn (dual analogues will work) psv will also have more 3rd party support and nearly console level games, as well as more quality new ips (gravity daze is what I have my eye on) though 3DS has the universally known francises that sells 10 million but everyone already played them so I think people will start to get bored of them like I did 


Keep grasping at straws....  PSV will have more 3rd party support because why???  Just because you got bored with the DS doesn't mean others will be bored of the 3DS.   Anyways, you entire post sounds like wishful thinking.  Nintendo games will always trump Sony especially when it comes to hand held.  I like that Sony is competing and keeping Nintendo on their toes but they are simply outclassed.  Nintendo is holding all the cards.  You can say the 3DS had a horrible launch or whatever.  You can say they don't have many games now.  You know what?? Go look at the 3DS release schedule before the holiday season. 



angelsaremyplaything said:
Conegamer said:
3DS. It's always the games which count. We know so little about the Vita, so everything is either subjective or rumour, bar graphics (but, history has taught us graphics =/= good console).

I think psv will beat out 3ds in quality and quantity of games, psv unlike 3ds will have phone games, ps3/psv psn games and enhanced bc for psp games on psn (dual analogues will work) psv will also have more 3rd party support and nearly console level games, as well as more quality new ips (gravity daze is what I have my eye on) though 3DS has the universally known francises that sells 10 million but everyone already played them so I think people will start to get bored of them like I did 

On the flipside, 3DS will have "Phone games", Wii U/3DS games, DSi Ware games, and enhanced BC for DS games (one analog will work) and 3DS, like the DS, has a ton of third party support.  I'm sure the 3DS will have its share of new, quality IP's (Beyond Labyrinth is what I have my eye on) as well as universally known franchises that sell 10 million and people haven't grown bored with them like you did.

How do you come to the conclusion that PSV will have better quality and quantity of games?  No first party supports their console like Nintendo does and Nintendo is synonymous with quality--especially their tried and true franchises.  As for quantity, like the PS3 vs the 360, the 3DS has new games releasing on a weekly basis on its Virtual Console, DSi Ware, and retail shelves months and months before the PSV has released its first game!!  As we've seen in the past, a headstart is a tough thing to overcome. 



sethnintendo said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
Conegamer said:
3DS. It's always the games which count. We know so little about the Vita, so everything is either subjective or rumour, bar graphics (but, history has taught us graphics =/= good console).

I think psv will beat out 3ds in quality and quantity of games, psv unlike 3ds will have phone games, ps3/psv psn games and enhanced bc for psp games on psn (dual analogues will work) psv will also have more 3rd party support and nearly console level games, as well as more quality new ips (gravity daze is what I have my eye on) though 3DS has the universally known francises that sells 10 million but everyone already played them so I think people will start to get bored of them like I did 


Keep grasping at straws....  PSV will have more 3rd party support because why???  Just because you got bored with the DS doesn't mean others will be bored of the 3DS.   Anyways, you entire post sounds like wishful thinking.  Nintendo games will always trump Sony especially when it comes to hand held.  I like that Sony is competing and keeping Nintendo on their toes but they are simply outclassed.  Nintendo is holding all the cards.  You can say the 3DS had a horrible launch or whatever.  You can say they don't have many games now.  You know what?? Go look at the 3DS release schedule before the holiday season. 

Dude it already has more 3rd party support, 153 3rd party devs are making something for it, thats more then what 3ds has right now, if you need reasons, second analogue will attract devs that normally don't do handhelds, easy dev kit will attract devs trying to jump from phone to console or anyone that wants to make console games but can't afford it, specs and touch screen/pad will attracted people trying to make something unique, ect. and I actually got bored on gba, mainly because the pokemon and mario games are always the freaking same, I think it's only a matter of time before others start feeling the same Nintnedo needs some good new IPs and they don't seem ot be delivering them or have any intention on delivering them, and they trump sony games in sale not always in quality, and it's games are rather kiddy which may deter some people, and again with the lack of innovation in their games and Sony comming out with new IPs, Nintendo only holds 2 cards, earlier launch and more well known brands of games that's it, Sony holds the other cards 



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angelsaremyplaything said:
sethnintendo said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
Conegamer said:
3DS. It's always the games which count. We know so little about the Vita, so everything is either subjective or rumour, bar graphics (but, history has taught us graphics =/= good console).

I think psv will beat out 3ds in quality and quantity of games, psv unlike 3ds will have phone games, ps3/psv psn games and enhanced bc for psp games on psn (dual analogues will work) psv will also have more 3rd party support and nearly console level games, as well as more quality new ips (gravity daze is what I have my eye on) though 3DS has the universally known francises that sells 10 million but everyone already played them so I think people will start to get bored of them like I did 


Keep grasping at straws....  PSV will have more 3rd party support because why???  Just because you got bored with the DS doesn't mean others will be bored of the 3DS.   Anyways, you entire post sounds like wishful thinking.  Nintendo games will always trump Sony especially when it comes to hand held.  I like that Sony is competing and keeping Nintendo on their toes but they are simply outclassed.  Nintendo is holding all the cards.  You can say the 3DS had a horrible launch or whatever.  You can say they don't have many games now.  You know what?? Go look at the 3DS release schedule before the holiday season. 

Dude it already has more 3rd party support, 153 3rd party devs are making something for it, thats more then what 3ds has right now, if you need reasons, second analogue will attract devs that normally don't do handhelds, easy dev kit will attract devs trying to jump from phone to console or anyone that wants to make console games but can't afford it, specs and touch screen/pad will attracted people trying to make something unique, ect. and I actually got bored on gba, mainly because the pokemon and mario games are always the freaking same, I think it's only a matter of time before others start feeling the same Nintnedo needs some good new IPs and they don't seem ot be delivering them or have any intention on delivering them, and they trump sony games in sale not always in quality, and it's games are rather kiddy which may deter some people, and again with the lack of innovation in their games and Sony comming out with new IPs, Nintendo only holds 2 cards, earlier launch and more well known brands of games that's it, Sony holds the other cards 

How about Nintendo holding the price cut ability card?  Sure they won't use till next year (around 2012 holiday season is my guess) but Sony will not be able to cut the price for the PSV for at least 2 years. 

Sony has good hardware (might not be most reliable until after hardware revisions).  However, Sony always does a piss poor job in enticing the average consumers (not the "hardcore" elite gamer that most want to be represented as) to go with their products even with the vastly superior tech, features, etc...  (this is in regards to the PSP, PS3, and possibly PSV; PS1 and PS2 weren't superior to their home console generation) Maybe most people that still buy dedicated hand held devices mainly just want a device that plays games?  To me it always seems like Sony should win in sales, but Nintendo knows their consumers better.  Again you state that you were bored with Pokemon and Mario games by GBA.  You do realize that Nintendo pushed plenty of new IPs during the DS era.  Nintendo to you might release the same Mario the same Pokemon, etc..  However, to most people that play these games they realize it is a new experience.



d21lewis said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
Conegamer said:
3DS. It's always the games which count. We know so little about the Vita, so everything is either subjective or rumour, bar graphics (but, history has taught us graphics =/= good console).

I think psv will beat out 3ds in quality and quantity of games, psv unlike 3ds will have phone games, ps3/psv psn games and enhanced bc for psp games on psn (dual analogues will work) psv will also have more 3rd party support and nearly console level games, as well as more quality new ips (gravity daze is what I have my eye on) though 3DS has the universally known francises that sells 10 million but everyone already played them so I think people will start to get bored of them like I did 

On the flipside, 3DS will have "Phone games", Wii U/3DS games, DSi Ware games, and enhanced BC for DS games (one analog will work) and 3DS, like the DS, has a ton of third party support.  I'm sure the 3DS will have its share of new, quality IP's (Beyond Labyrinth is what I have my eye on) as well as universally known franchises that sell 10 million and people haven't grown bored with them like you did.

How do you come to the conclusion that PSV will have better quality and quantity of games?  No first party supports their console like Nintendo does and Nintendo is synonymous with quality--especially their tried and true franchises.  As for quantity, like the PS3 vs the 360, the 3DS has new games releasing on a weekly basis on its Virtual Console, DSi Ware, and retail shelves months and months before the PSV has released its first game!!  As we've seen in the past, a headstart is a tough thing to overcome. 

I ahve no doubt 3ds will have phone quality games but they won't be priced the same as their phon e game counterparts it will just be shovelware cash grabs, psv will have phone games ports for the same price, and Nintendo has gone on record saying they don't see a need to compete with phone games (or something like that wording is definately off but the point is the same), 3ds/wiiU games I haven't heard of any or even that Nintnedo is looking into it, Nintnedo still doesn't have the store up so I'm not holding my breath for DSi ware games being any good any time soon, and the anlogue replaces the D pad the thing is still locked for 8 directions it's not enhanced at all, Sony is adding a different joystick that can control the camera, 3ds just has a choice been analogue and dpad.

I'm not so sure about the quality new IPs Nintendo isn't interested and third parties are more known for shovelware, sure they will be a few gems but that game isn't even out yet and the 3ds has been out for months there isn't anything like what I'm talking about out on the 3ds yet and psv will have a few on release, and really you think no1 is getting tired of pokemon? 

Well the quality comes from the second analogue and better hardware in short psv is capable of delivering better games then the 3ds is, add to that all the talent Sony devs have and the fact that htey steped up their game on ps3 and that psv is attracting the attention of more 3rd party devs with the fact that Nintnedo only sticks to the same formulas, so well their games might be good when it's the same thing we've doen 10 times it's not as good as it was the first time even if it's better and thrid parties tend to go shovelware on Nintendos platforms, as for the quantitty, like I said psv has more types of games skews then 3ds will and is attracting more 3rd parties (alot of which have never been interested in handhelds before) and that Sony just has more devs and well the 3ds does have a headstart the psv has a good price point (unlike ps3) so it won't be that hard to overcome esepecailly with 3ds lack of games so far 



d21lewis said:

ThePS3News said:

Here are my results when comparing the 3DS To the PS3 as far as infomation presented is concerned

Price - Tie Yes, the lower end PSV (aka: the one I'm going to buy) costs the same as the 3DS.  What about the $300 3G version that requires a data plan?

Battery Life - Tie (Still dont really know the battery life for the Vita yet)  Yeah, we don't know but from experience with the 3DS, I can pull a lot more out of that battery than 3-5 hours, depending on the settings.  I also know that, from using a smart phone, the more things the device is doing at once, the faster that battery is going to die.  I'll go on record and say there is NO WAY the PSV's battery beats the 3DS, both with max settings and minimum settings.  Quote me on this.
Camera - Vita From what I've read in this thread, camera is a tie (both .3 megapixel) however, the 3DS takes 3D pics.  Maybe the PSV will record video.  Then again, maybe the 3DS will too via an update.
 
Power/CPU/GPU - Vita No arguement here.  The 3DS is a powerful beast, though.  The 3DS screen probably won't be as bright and beautiful as the Vita's either.  Even then, on the brightest settings, It's a thing of beauty.  Games in the launch window (Res Evil Mercs, Dead or Alive) are boasting graphics that can compete with the current HD systems, already.  I think the PSV and 3DS will be closer than you think in this regard.
 
Browser - Vita Too soon to tell. 
I'm sure the Vita takes it in this battle, though.  The 3DS ALREADY allows you to go on the internet and play a game at the same time.  Comes in handy when you're stuck in Legend of Zelda's water temple, I tell ya!  And again, it's upgradeable.  Wi-Fi can't compete with 3G, though.....unless you count speed.

Graphics - Vita Like I said, they're going to be pretty comparable (graphics=/= power?) in this regard.  It's going to come down to what developers do with that power.  Remember the PS2 was the weakest console last gen and yet God of War 2 could easily stand along side the best from the Gamecube and Xbox?  I bet it's the same thing, this time around.  You seem to be making the same mistake a lot of people are making and associating the name DS with poor graphics.  The 3DS isn't a slouch--but it's no PSV, either.
 
Design - Vita (My opinion) Your opinion.
 
Technology - Vita  What the heck does this mean?  Is it different from graphics?  3DS's motion controls and AR games are pretty spot on.  Touch pad, maybe?  Elaborate on this one, will ya!

Launch Games - Vita (This can change,But right now Vita seems to be having a good launch lineup)
  Vita's launch lineup will be facing the 3DS's full fledged lineup.  Nobody who buys the Vita is going to compare the games available for the system at launch to only games available during the 3DS launch!  Has the 360 vs PS3 taught you nothing?  Gears wasn't a launch game but it damn sure got compared to Resistance Fall of Man in 2006.
 
Portability - 3DS  Agreed.  But since I'm trying to disagree with you on everything you say, I'll disagree.  I carry my PSP and 3DS in leather cases.  I'll do the same with the Vita when I get one.  Yeah, I can fit the 3DS in my pocket without the case (exactly the same size as my DSi) but I won't.  I don't want to damage the finish on my portables.

Durability - Tie 
For some reason, I doubt that the portable with two analog nubs jutting out, an exposed touch screen on the front, and an exposed touch pad on the back is going to be as durable as the 3DS with its clamshell design.

Online - Vita  We don't know.  The 3DS's online is miles ahead of the PSP (and even the Wii), though.  I'm sure Sony will provide the better experience with the PSV.  Then again, the 3DS can evolve (it already has since launch).  It's got universal friends lists, tells you who's online, what they're playing, etc.  Wi-Fi play is pretty spot on and lag free.  I only wish the 3DS had messaging, voice chat, and online leaderboards.   All of these are possible on the 3DS--just not being done for some reason.

3D - 3DS (Obvious) No argument, here.

Features/Content - TBA (Dont really know the Vita's content and features yet. Netflix, Pandora, Ect..) Agreed.  And like the aquisition of Netflix on the 3DS has shown, just because a feature isn't available now, that doesn't meant it won't be available soon.  3DS has some interestingly quirky features, too.  I can't describe them.

 

Conclusion: As of right now, The PS-Vita is looking better than the 3DS in almost everyway shape, and form. I know Nintendo has always controled thehandheld market for gaming, But i really do beleive that the PS-Vita will dethrown Nintendo for handheld king once it releases. The PSP is still outselling 3DS in Japan and Europe right now which means that there is still life for Sony to take down Nintendo for the handheld market.

Though i am sure the 3DS will start to sell really well once Nintendo releases another Pokemon or Mario game. However i still think Vita has a brighter future ahead of it because it seems to be so much more promising.
What do yall think....

You asked what I though.  And in reality, it's going to be hard to argue with some of the features that I expect to be packaged with the PSV.  There are features (like being able to play movies from the memory stick, comic book reader, etc.) that the PSP have had for years that the 3DS doesn't even have, now.  There's a reason why I still carry my PSP around even after owning a 3DS for close to a month.  I'm hoping to be surprised by the PSV, too.  I'm just playing "Devils Advocate" and trying to show you that the desparity between the PSV and the 3DS are nowhere near as pronounced as you make it out to be. 

One thing that's the dark horse in all of this is this is the smartphone.  Almost everybody I know already has one.  Movies, music, web browsers, GPS, Skype, etc. are ALREADY available for us, on the go.  A lot of things that make the PSV stand out from the 3DS are nullified for a lot of people.  Simply comparing console vs. console, I'd be a fool to think the 3DS is going to beat the PSV when it comes to features.  It's just not as important as you think for a lot of people.  Especially the 3G feature.  How many people do you expect to purchase a PSV 3G plan that don't already have a smartphone with 3G and 4G?  3G is a great thing to have, don't get me wrong.  It's just not going to offer online gameplay (unless it's checkers or something--not Call of Duty) that a lot of people are thinking it will be.  Maybe 3G will prove its worth when it comes to downloading games or something.  And don't forget that a lot of people don't like being forced to go with AT&t.

Also, you left out quite a few PSV advantages (but since I'm taking the pro-3DS side, I'll leave it to you to find out what they were......).  And don't get me wrong.  I'm definitely buying a PSV.  I already own two PSP 3000's and I love them WAY more than I love my DS's (three phats, two Lites, and one DSi).  Like I said before, I'm just offering some opposition to your point view.  This battle is going to be won with games.  Whichever device has the best games for the most consumers will walk away with the title, this time.  Nothing is pre-determined.  Just keep in mind that, while we're waiting for the PSV to launch, the 3DS is already on the market selling, evolving, and entertaining......

Excellently said. I've never been trying to argue that the 3DS is better; but it's a much, much more evenly distributed competition than the OP is trying to argue. It'd be nice if this thread was actually written by someone that would actually do it legitimately.  You've proven that practically everything he's said is subjective.



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angelsaremyplaything said:
sethnintendo said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
Conegamer said:
3DS. It's always the games which count. We know so little about the Vita, so everything is either subjective or rumour, bar graphics (but, history has taught us graphics =/= good console).

I think psv will beat out 3ds in quality and quantity of games, psv unlike 3ds will have phone games, ps3/psv psn games and enhanced bc for psp games on psn (dual analogues will work) psv will also have more 3rd party support and nearly console level games, as well as more quality new ips (gravity daze is what I have my eye on) though 3DS has the universally known francises that sells 10 million but everyone already played them so I think people will start to get bored of them like I did 


Keep grasping at straws....  PSV will have more 3rd party support because why???  Just because you got bored with the DS doesn't mean others will be bored of the 3DS.   Anyways, you entire post sounds like wishful thinking.  Nintendo games will always trump Sony especially when it comes to hand held.  I like that Sony is competing and keeping Nintendo on their toes but they are simply outclassed.  Nintendo is holding all the cards.  You can say the 3DS had a horrible launch or whatever.  You can say they don't have many games now.  You know what?? Go look at the 3DS release schedule before the holiday season. 

Dude it already has more 3rd party support, 153 3rd party devs are making something for it, thats more then what 3ds has right now, if you need reasons, second analogue will attract devs that normally don't do handhelds, easy dev kit will attract devs trying to jump from phone to console or anyone that wants to make console games but can't afford it, specs and touch screen/pad will attracted people trying to make something unique, ect. and I actually got bored on gba, mainly because the pokemon and mario games are always the freaking same, I think it's only a matter of time before others start feeling the same Nintnedo needs some good new IPs and they don't seem ot be delivering them or have any intention on delivering them, and they trump sony games in sale not always in quality, and it's games are rather kiddy which may deter some people, and again with the lack of innovation in their games and Sony comming out with new IPs, Nintendo only holds 2 cards, earlier launch and more well known brands of games that's it, Sony holds the other cards 


IDK why you think that 153 Devs working on a system means something amazing is going to happen. 

1. The games could actually never come out if they don't make it past the planning stages or test stages

2. Just cause they are being worked on doesn't mean that they are going to be good games

3. When did quantity ever equal quality 

4. At no point has it been revealed that these are PSV exclusives

5. More devs could mean that there are going to be more shovelware out there. REmember for every Mario game there are 100 games that try to copy it. 

6. You are acting like the 3DS is being ignored by 3rd Party Developers. It's a Nintendo  Handheld it's going to get support

I don't get why you are acting like the Vita has already won the battle because 153 devs say they are working on the system. Besides Nintendo already said they don't want those Garage Developers on their system, remember them and Angry Birds Creators got into it after that. 

Also I don't see how the PSV will have an easy developers kit that can be ported from smartphone to system seeing as how The PSV has two track pads, and buttons and analogue sticks. So settle down man, you have high hopes, which you should for the system you are putting your money behind, but stop acting like everyone has to share your sentiments 



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sethnintendo said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
sethnintendo said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
Conegamer said:
3DS. It's always the games which count. We know so little about the Vita, so everything is either subjective or rumour, bar graphics (but, history has taught us graphics =/= good console).

I think psv will beat out 3ds in quality and quantity of games, psv unlike 3ds will have phone games, ps3/psv psn games and enhanced bc for psp games on psn (dual analogues will work) psv will also have more 3rd party support and nearly console level games, as well as more quality new ips (gravity daze is what I have my eye on) though 3DS has the universally known francises that sells 10 million but everyone already played them so I think people will start to get bored of them like I did 


Keep grasping at straws....  PSV will have more 3rd party support because why???  Just because you got bored with the DS doesn't mean others will be bored of the 3DS.   Anyways, you entire post sounds like wishful thinking.  Nintendo games will always trump Sony especially when it comes to hand held.  I like that Sony is competing and keeping Nintendo on their toes but they are simply outclassed.  Nintendo is holding all the cards.  You can say the 3DS had a horrible launch or whatever.  You can say they don't have many games now.  You know what?? Go look at the 3DS release schedule before the holiday season. 

Dude it already has more 3rd party support, 153 3rd party devs are making something for it, thats more then what 3ds has right now, if you need reasons, second analogue will attract devs that normally don't do handhelds, easy dev kit will attract devs trying to jump from phone to console or anyone that wants to make console games but can't afford it, specs and touch screen/pad will attracted people trying to make something unique, ect. and I actually got bored on gba, mainly because the pokemon and mario games are always the freaking same, I think it's only a matter of time before others start feeling the same Nintnedo needs some good new IPs and they don't seem ot be delivering them or have any intention on delivering them, and they trump sony games in sale not always in quality, and it's games are rather kiddy which may deter some people, and again with the lack of innovation in their games and Sony comming out with new IPs, Nintendo only holds 2 cards, earlier launch and more well known brands of games that's it, Sony holds the other cards 

How about Nintendo holding the price cut ability card?  Sure they won't use till next year (around 2012 holiday season is my guess) but Sony will not be able to cut the price for the PSV for at least 2 years. 

Sony has good hardware (might not be most reliable until after hardware revisions).  However, Sony always does a piss poor job in enticing the average consumers (not the "hardcore" elite gamer that most want to be represented as) to go with their products even with the vastly superior tech, features, etc...  Maybe most people that still buy dedicated hand held devices mainly just want a device that plays games?  To me it always seems like Sony should win in sales, but Nintendo knows their consumers better.  Again you state that you were bored with Pokemon and Mario games by GBA.  You do realize that Nintendo pushed plenty of new IPs during the DS era.  Nintendo to you might release the same Mario the same Pokemon, etc..  However, to most people that play these games they realize it is a new experience.

They don't get the price cut card till the system is atleast one year old, so no they don't hold it (though they will hold it before sony) but right now neither has it.

I know what your saying and thats the wild card, Sony has learned alot from their mistakes with the psp and the ps3, Nintendo on the other hand is doing buisness as usual, the main thing we see already is Sony releasing a console at the same price as it's competitiors something thatdidn't havppen with psp or ps3 and one of the main reasons they didn't gain traction until later, I also believe they will do a better job of advertising this time around and will consistently support the psv and not pull devs off it like they did with psp, and I didn't see anything noteworthy on DS that I haven't played before (granted not always on a handheld, but everytime Nintendo comes out with something "new" it just seems like they brushed off something old, and well I know old is new to people who weren't around when old came out, it goes both ways, new doesn't get an automatic buy because thye aren't familiar with the franchises, so I think the older will get bored and the newest could be drawn towards psv shrinking Nintnedos market unless they do something actually new