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rocketpig on 26 April 2011

Is that this security breach was a server-side flaw. "Hacking" a PS3 shouldn't give anyone access to critical PSN information any more than hacking a computer or install of Firefox would give you access to Amazon's customer database.

The tools to defend against this type of attack have been available for years. I can build a secure e-commerce store in a matter of hours and get it locked down to prevent this type of information breach using off-the-shelf software. Why can't Sony do the same on their PROPRIETARY system?

No matter whether you think Sony was in the right over the Geohotz fiasco, they royally screwed the pooch on this one.

And that is no one's fault but their own. They deserve every bit of bad press they're going to get over this.




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twesterm on 26 April 2011
rocketpig said:

Why can't Sony do the same on their PROPRIETARY system?


Well, they are the ones that can't even make a random number generator...



 

rocketpig on 26 April 2011
twesterm said:
rocketpig said:

Why can't Sony do the same on their PROPRIETARY system?


Well, they are the ones that can't even make a random number generator...

Sony's imcompetence in the realm of software is legendary.

Once they made an MP3 phone that couldn't run its own MP3 software and RELEASED IT THAT WAY.

I almost shit myself I laughed so hard.




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Kudistos Megistos on 26 April 2011
rocketpig said:

Is that this security breach was a server-side flaw. "Hacking" a PS3 shouldn't give anyone access to critical PSN information any more than hacking a computer or install of Firefox would give you access to Amazon's customer database.

The tools to defend against this type of attack have been available for years. I can build a secure e-commerce store in a matter of hours and get it locked down to prevent this type of information breach using off-the-shelf software. Why can't Sony do the same on their PROPRIETARY system?

No matter whether you think Sony was in the right over the Geohotz fiasco, they royally screwed the pooch on this one.

And that is no one's fault but their own. They deserve every bit of bad press they're going to get over this.

This is all true, but try explaining that to the fanboys. One's favourite corporation can do no wrong, so scapegoats have to be found and messengers need to be shot. Clearly, everything bad that happens to Sony or everything bad that Sony does is the fault of TEH PIRATES, RRRRAAAGGGGEEE! Sony are absolved from all responsibility for their actions or lack thereof.



imaprettyhotguy on 26 April 2011
rocketpig said:

Is that this security breach was a server-side flaw. "Hacking" a PS3 shouldn't give anyone access to critical PSN information any more than hacking a computer or install of Firefox would give you access to Amazon's customer database.

The tools to defend against this type of attack have been available for years. I can build a secure e-commerce store in a matter of hours and get it locked down to prevent this type of information breach using off-the-shelf software. Why can't Sony do the same on their PROPRIETARY system?

No matter whether you think Sony was in the right over the Geohotz fiasco, they royally screwed the pooch on this one.

And that is no one's fault but their own. They deserve every bit of bad press they're going to get over this.

Can you do it on a massive amount of worldwide servers that were built half a decade ago? Didn't think so, and I'm pretty sure whoever got into psn could easily get past whatever defences you can make 



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rocketpig on 26 April 2011
imaprettyhotguy said:
rocketpig said:

Is that this security breach was a server-side flaw. "Hacking" a PS3 shouldn't give anyone access to critical PSN information any more than hacking a computer or install of Firefox would give you access to Amazon's customer database.

The tools to defend against this type of attack have been available for years. I can build a secure e-commerce store in a matter of hours and get it locked down to prevent this type of information breach using off-the-shelf software. Why can't Sony do the same on their PROPRIETARY system?

No matter whether you think Sony was in the right over the Geohotz fiasco, they royally screwed the pooch on this one.

And that is no one's fault but their own. They deserve every bit of bad press they're going to get over this.

Can you do it on a massive amount of worldwide servers that were built half a decade ago? Didn't think so, and I'm pretty sure whoever got into psn could easily get past whatever defences you can make 

Well, I certainly hope Sony has more than one person manning their security department.

And hackers would have a hell of a time getting through some of my software. It's been battle-tested on the open market for years and it's never revealed a massive, gaping hole such as the one we're seeing right now.




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imaprettyhotguy on 26 April 2011
rocketpig said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
rocketpig said:

Is that this security breach was a server-side flaw. "Hacking" a PS3 shouldn't give anyone access to critical PSN information any more than hacking a computer or install of Firefox would give you access to Amazon's customer database.

The tools to defend against this type of attack have been available for years. I can build a secure e-commerce store in a matter of hours and get it locked down to prevent this type of information breach using off-the-shelf software. Why can't Sony do the same on their PROPRIETARY system?

No matter whether you think Sony was in the right over the Geohotz fiasco, they royally screwed the pooch on this one.

And that is no one's fault but their own. They deserve every bit of bad press they're going to get over this.

Can you do it on a massive amount of worldwide servers that were built half a decade ago? Didn't think so, and I'm pretty sure whoever got into psn could easily get past whatever defences you can make 

Well, I certainly hope Sony has more than one person manning their security department.

It takes time to do it on a massive network like this, and you have to take it down to do it, so basically if Sony did upgrade it earlier it would have been taken down anyways, and people would be complaining about them taking it down for no reason, and there haven't been problems till recently so there wasn't a real need, so yeah, and cheaters and pirates are abundant on live, so they aren't any better I just don't get what you want, actually I do you want to eat your cake and have it too, and that just can't happen 



hatmoza on 26 April 2011

You hate Sony, we get it.



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M0RZINGER on 26 April 2011

seems to be far less embarrasing than Xbox RROD

 

OT: Why do fanboys feel the need to create threads to bash their competitors? Do u feel personally affected by the well being of your console of choice? 

As Hatmoza said "You hate Sony, we get it."



dsister on 26 April 2011

Stating the truth makes you an Xbox fanboy! 

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