@kasz your wasting your time if there was such a person that would go through all that just to play SNES games on PS3 then more power to him. I never stated that FPSs werent dumbed down on consoles, that wasnt what i was implying. i know they Ironically i have orange box for PS3 (it was like 10 bucks) and ive never touched Team Fortress 2, didnt look interesting, but thats me, Thing is im just not into FPSs like that so to me it doesnt really matter if there dumbed down or not, if i can get the meat and potatoes of the game then thats all i really care about