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I'm more interested in Sony Alpha NEX-3 and NEX-5 which have 3D Sweep function added in recent firmwares. They are of compact form-factor, yet with DSLR APS-C sensor and optics, and actually is true  turnover in the market this year. And now they can shoot 3D too, sweet.



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M.U.G.E.N said:
superchunk said:
psrock said:


LAWL but come onnnnnnnnn I wanted to be the one to show that review, bummer :D

anywho these camera are fraction of the price of this one and has more and better specs so yeah no matter how one spin it this is still a great cam..you called it a half breed even without a proper reason...yu say the quality will be bad when we still don't know that so unless we know for sure you just bashed on a sony product without proper reason and that is uber fail , better luck next time tho, keep trying.

ps; for the one who said this won't display the 3d pics, i can confirm it does...all you need is some googling before bashing anything non ninty, it makes you look silly

He called it a half breed because it's a single lens that requires you to actually physically move the camera to get a 3D effect. It's basically a standard camera with software giving the 3D, not a purpose built 3D camera.

Also I can confirm it doesn't display true 3D.

"Images can't be viewed in 3D on the camera's LCD. As an alternative, Sony has created a feature called Sweep Multi Angle. This mode will capture 15 images at different angles and combines them into one image. When the final image is displayed on screen, the user can tilt the camera to view the image through different angles, almost as if it's being displayed in 3D."

http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/default.asp?newsID=4410



here is a pretty good review of the camera:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/TX9/TX9A.HTM

 



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It sounds like you don't have to physically move the camera; the lens physically adjusts to accomodate multiple viewing angles within the same frame of reference, but from a fixed point of perspective.

For those who aren't clear on what that means, think of "bullet time" photography in reverse. Instead of taking multiple shots of a single frame of reference from multiple reference points in sequence, the camera shoots multiple shots from a single reference point (you don't move the camera physically) from one viewing angle, just as normal vision would.

The upside is, you can "turn" an image shot in this fashion on any 2D display. In other words, your single frame of reference has in effect multiple viewing angles. I've seen QT VR files that simulate the same effect.

That data should be enough to produce a 3D image when viewed on a 3D display.



Guys.... your eyes are 5 cm appart for a good reason... because the closer the 2 points are, the less 3d is visible....

This camera would need to move the lens a hell lot to do 3D.

There is the possiblility of the camera lense being polarized to permit the light captors to see a 3D image.... but the distance from the lense to the captors is pretty small... the effect wouldn't be very big



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greenmedic88 said:

It sounds like you don't have to physically move the camera; the lens physically adjusts to accomodate multiple viewing angles within the same frame of reference, but from a fixed point of perspective.

For those who aren't clear on what that means, think of "bullet time" photography in reverse. Instead of taking multiple shots of a single frame of reference from multiple reference points in sequence, the camera shoots multiple shots from a single reference point (you don't move the camera physically) from one viewing angle, just as normal vision would.

The upside is, you can "turn" an image shot in this fashion on any 2D display. In other words, your single frame of reference has in effect multiple viewing angles. I've seen QT VR files that simulate the same effect.

That data should be enough to produce a 3D image when viewed on a 3D display.


One eyed dudes don't see 3D... and normal vision has 2 origin points



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LOL, if people are mad at Sony because it equipped it with a 2D screen, what will happen if it will build a parallax barrier 3D one into higher end models?   



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Rath said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
superchunk said:
psrock said:


LAWL but come onnnnnnnnn I wanted to be the one to show that review, bummer :D

anywho these camera are fraction of the price of this one and has more and better specs so yeah no matter how one spin it this is still a great cam..you called it a half breed even without a proper reason...yu say the quality will be bad when we still don't know that so unless we know for sure you just bashed on a sony product without proper reason and that is uber fail , better luck next time tho, keep trying.

ps; for the one who said this won't display the 3d pics, i can confirm it does...all you need is some googling before bashing anything non ninty, it makes you look silly

He called it a half breed because it's a single lens that requires you to actually physically move the camera to get a 3D effect. It's basically a standard camera with software giving the 3D, not a purpose built 3D camera.

Also I can confirm it doesn't display true 3D.

"Images can't be viewed in 3D on the camera's LCD. As an alternative, Sony has created a feature called Sweep Multi Angle. This mode will capture 15 images at different angles and combines them into one image. When the final image is displayed on screen, the user can tilt the camera to view the image through different angles, almost as if it's being displayed in 3D."

http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/default.asp?newsID=4410


Nope he called it a half breed cuz he just wanted to bash on Sony, heck he coundn't even come up with a decent come back, in fact the product he showed was way way more pricy and had bad reviews....he just randomly bs on Sony forums

and what do you mean half breed? do YOU have any evidence that the 3d images it takes are not up the standards? if not your as bad as him or worse

it can diplay the 3d effect on the cam itself....you and i can argue all day long if that's real or w/e bla bla bla but it get's the job done...again unless you can show me the 3d effect it shows on the screen when tilted is not up to par with expectations then your also rambling on and on a made up definition of true 3d

oh and btw might wanna google the definition of half breed while your at it, doesn't sound like you have a clue



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Hephaestos said:
greenmedic88 said:

It sounds like you don't have to physically move the camera; the lens physically adjusts to accomodate multiple viewing angles within the same frame of reference, but from a fixed point of perspective.

For those who aren't clear on what that means, think of "bullet time" photography in reverse. Instead of taking multiple shots of a single frame of reference from multiple reference points in sequence, the camera shoots multiple shots from a single reference point (you don't move the camera physically) from one viewing angle, just as normal vision would.

The upside is, you can "turn" an image shot in this fashion on any 2D display. In other words, your single frame of reference has in effect multiple viewing angles. I've seen QT VR files that simulate the same effect.

That data should be enough to produce a 3D image when viewed on a 3D display.


One eyed dudes don't see 3D... and normal vision has 2 origin points

put one hand over one of your eyes. now tell me you can't see depth because I can. let me explain why. I can tell when one object ends and when one object starts. from this my brain can calculate the size of the object. from this object I can then calculate the distance of all other objects based on the size. other features like light, also play apart. also when I move my head (like this camera) I see the object form different angles. yeah sure with one eye closed it is slightly harder to tell how far an object is compared to when I have both eyes, but to say that with one eye you can't see depth just isn't true.

well I suppose they wouldn't be able to see a 3d image of screen but all other things I am sure they can.



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M.U.G.E.N said:
Rath said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
superchunk said:
psrock said:


LAWL but come onnnnnnnnn I wanted to be the one to show that review, bummer :D

anywho these camera are fraction of the price of this one and has more and better specs so yeah no matter how one spin it this is still a great cam..you called it a half breed even without a proper reason...yu say the quality will be bad when we still don't know that so unless we know for sure you just bashed on a sony product without proper reason and that is uber fail , better luck next time tho, keep trying.

ps; for the one who said this won't display the 3d pics, i can confirm it does...all you need is some googling before bashing anything non ninty, it makes you look silly

He called it a half breed because it's a single lens that requires you to actually physically move the camera to get a 3D effect. It's basically a standard camera with software giving the 3D, not a purpose built 3D camera.

Also I can confirm it doesn't display true 3D.

"Images can't be viewed in 3D on the camera's LCD. As an alternative, Sony has created a feature called Sweep Multi Angle. This mode will capture 15 images at different angles and combines them into one image. When the final image is displayed on screen, the user can tilt the camera to view the image through different angles, almost as if it's being displayed in 3D."

http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/default.asp?newsID=4410


Nope he called it a half breed cuz he just wanted to bash on Sony, heck he coundn't even come up with a decent come back, in fact the product he showed was way way more pricy and had bad reviews....he just randomly bs on Sony forums

and what do you mean half breed? do YOU have any evidence that the 3d images it takes are not up the standards? if not your as bad as him or worse

it can diplay the 3d effect on the cam itself....you and i can argue all day long if that's real or w/e bla bla bla but it get's the job done...again unless you can show me the 3d effect it shows on the screen when tilted is not up to par with expectations then your also rambling on and on a made up definition of true 3d

oh and btw might wanna google the definition of half breed while your at it, doesn't sound like you have a clue


No I did exactly as Rath said, in fact I specifically called out their software solution in many posts.

I own many sony products and really like Sony cameras actually. I do not come in to Sony forums to bash Sony. However, this is another time I think they've jumped in with both feet into a nearly empty pool. PSP Go was the latest example of this. Also, the camera I showed would actually do a far better 3D experience, including the ability to actually show the user the 3D pic on the camera which this Sony cannot do. You just seem to ignore the relavent parts of my posts and go LOL OWNED HHAAAAHAHA YOU SUCK AHAHAH.

Now they have a 3D-ish camera that can't possibly be as good as a dual lense system, its simply physics, don't need to view it to realize that it won't be as good. Why do you think nearly every animal in existence has at least two eyes? FOR 3D DEPTH. I also admitted that the 2D pics would probably be really good as Sony cameras are generally built well. I just think that touting this as a 3D camera is stupid. It would be like touting the LG Envy Touch as a smart phone with a touch screen. It just doesn't really add up.