Why do you go to a forum about videogames asking people what they think of creationism?  Do you want others to join in with you so you feel more secure in your belief they are misinformed, if not downright evil in ignorance?

In regards to the entire issue, if you want to also get into Intelligent Design (which gets lumped in with normal Creationism) is that science is not able to detect with certainty whether or not something in the universe has been engineered (designed) or not.  SETI, for example, tries to use scientific tools, to be able to detect language in the noise of space.  As of now, all science can do is tell what may of caused something, by knowing how something known operates.  It is not able to detect something called "intelligence" as a general attribute.  For all we know, the Internet could be a collective sentient being, and we don't have the tools to be able to tell so.  Or, something else may come along in the Internet, operate intelligently and we can't detect whether or not it is.

Or, would you rather I say that anyone who believes God created the universe or intervened directly in the creation of life is a nutcase and leave it at that?  I have a feeling this short reply would likely be far more acceptable that the longer reply I gave above.

Again trying to take the pity route. I don't "belittle" people's beliefs. I merely state that if you believe in something so factually inaccurate as creationism, then you really are not a logical person. I admit that I went too far by calling you an idiot, but I think that by denying evolution as correct you are missing the point entirely and you are being the "ignorant" person.

Lol actually I wasnt referring to myself pwning you, merely the other 3 people who quoted you! I know that they basically gave the proper answers, so why add more?

Also stop putting words into my mouth. If you recall, i said I am more than happy for people to believe in God etc, but " when they believe in something as demonstrably incorrect as creationism" is just bad. And also, unlike you it seems, i dont believe in evolution because the ""elite" told me to, i read up on it during my biology exams over say 5 years of school and realised it was the only proper scientific theory.

how am i trying to take the pity route, you stated that" people who don't believe in evolution are idiot's"   It is very logical to question scientific theories as well as religion because we are lied to by the mainstream media, elite's a good majority of the time. If anything questioning what were spoon fed these days is by far more logical than just going with the flow.

Who cares if people believe in creationism. Really, who are you to judge them. I personally dont follow religion as I have my own means of believing in god ect, but I do tell them there idiots because they believe in it. Your not helping your cause by any means, if anything your just going to anger those who do believe in creationism and push them farther away. Try being respectful an maybe people will respond to you better.

Perhaps because this is the off topic section? Why are their threads here about"porn flicks" or "will obama be elected in 2012"? Ones quite inapprpaite due to age constraints, the other will be just be political subjectivity.

Also intelligent design may not be as extreme as creationism, but it certainly is within the category.

And yes, from a scientific point of view unsubstantiated claims such as god created life are not provable. They are not "nutcases", merely as my first post suggested,- uniformed.

I know it belongs here, but ehwy even write about such things and as a community who have a common interest in what they think, about creationists or creationsim?  I even wonder what the heck about 2012.  You aren't going to get answers that you really seek. 

As far as what I wrote, it was in response to "AT LEAST uninformed".  The least condition is uninformed.  As for the more stronger condition?  Is it outright delusional, or worse? 

As far as being "uninformed" goes, there is a LOT of work that needs to go into the study of both the origins of life and how species come about.  There are elements found in species that would make one wonder if unguided mutations plus natural selection are sufficient to bring about.  A book like, "Darwin in the Genome" goes into how some aspects of evolution might very likely be guided by the species itself, as the paths a species changes, and the mechanics governing it, might indicate that the evolution adopts to the environment in strategic ways.  Also, with genetic engineering coming about, if someone has argued there hadn't been Intelligent Design in the past, it will be found that Intelligent Design is likely to become more and more relevant.  I would suggest that study into detecting this would be helpful.  I would make it as part of the school of cognitive science personally.

Ok this, I will say as to what I am.  I would fall in the Christian camp, and believe that unguided mutation plus natural selection are insufficient to explain how all life came about.  I believe arguments ID brings up have merit, but they don't have the tools to answer them.  I also find that to say your world view MUST disallow a Creator who intervenes in the universe, for it to be REAL science, is to not to be intellectually honest.  Science should allow for all possibilities, even if it says the possibility is very rare.  When I hear someone say they would consider engineering of biological life on Earth more plausible, if it is done by aliens from another world (eventhough we have NO evidence of intelligence being anywhere else but Earth), that is not being intellectual honest.  That view is one with a distinct anti-theistic bias based on what one is comfortable with, far more than what is.

Bah, there's no way to cancel a post.

This is in reply to dtewi

Faith is bad because it is irrational. It is always a good thing to be able to at least explain yourself. Rationalism, is what seperates us from the automatic machine or instinctual animal. Rationalism is what tells us to not immedeiately bite into that cake. Rationalism is what tells us to save up money. Rationalism is what makes us act in a orderly fashion, rather than chaoticly.

If faith is irrational, then everyone is irrational to some degree.

For example, if you were to say that "God doesn't exist" and were then asked to provide scientific evidence for that statement, could you do it? Similarly, if someone were to tell you that "God does exist," would you expect that person to be able to provide scientific evidence?

The reality is, science can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God; whether or not one believes in God is completely a matter of faith. Therefore, there is not a person on this earth who is without faith-based beliefs.