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rocketpig on 11 March 2010

Really, I'm just whining because I want a Green Lantern movie.

Fuck you, DC.




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The Fury on 11 March 2010
rocketpig said:
Really, I'm just whining because I want a Green Lantern movie.

Fuck you, DC.

With Ryan Reynolds in the lead role? Isn't that being made now?... with Ryan Reynolds.



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rocketpig on 11 March 2010

I just looked into that.

Oh yeah, I'm watching that movie.




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Kasz216 on 11 March 2010
rocketpig said:
Kasz216 said:
rocketpig said:
Kasz216 said:
HappySqurriel said:

I really enjoyed The Dark Knight and thought that Batman Begins was fairly average; and (while many won’t agree with me) I thought Superman Returns was on par with Batman Begins. Personally, I don’t have high hopes that you could make a Superman movie that is on par with The Dark Knight primarily because The Dark Knight was one of those special movies where the villain was a far superior character than the hero; and while you (sort of) want the hero to succeed, you also love to watch the villain at play. I can't see something similar to this happening because most of Superman's villains reall super power is being super lame.

I've always thought that Lex Luthor was a far more compelling villian then even the joker... when done right.  For example look at Lex Luthor in the JLU cartoons.

A modern Lex Luthor using current day tactics to take out the man of steel yet staying legitamite I think would work REAL well if done right.

Luthor is too overdone. I'm pulling for Brainiac. Nolan went with Ra's in Batman Begins and I hope he uses another underutilized villain for Superman.

The thing with braniac is... he's cool in powers... boring in execution.  He wants to assimilate all knowledge of the planet, then destroy it... and he's a computer.  You'd need him working with someone at the very least.

Which is largely the problem with most superman villians.  They don't do the kind of plotting you need to get you through the movie BEFORE the big fight scene.

 

Darkseid maybe for example.

True. Most Superman villains are vastly different from the hero, which makes a lot of exposition necessary. Even doing Luthor correctly needs a lot of explanation (something they never did well in any Superman films).

I just REALLY hope they stay away from Doomsday. It made for an interesting death series in the book but the character is completely vacant. It wouldn't make for an interesting story unless they drastically changed the character.

You would just have to wait until the third or at least second movie before you went with doomsday i'd think.



rocketpig on 11 March 2010

Yes. The importance of Superman to the world would have to be firmly established, much like Nolan did with Batman at the end of the Dark Knight. Most of the Doomsday story revolved around everyone else in the Justice League (the bit players, anyway) getting their asses handed to them and the entire world sitting in horror as they watched Superman battle a mindless monstrosity and ultimately die.




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d21lewis on 11 March 2010
rocketpig said:

Yes. The importance of Superman to the world would have to be firmly established, much like Nolan did with Batman at the end of the Dark Knight. Most of the Doomsday story revolved around everyone else in the Justice League (the bit players, anyway) getting their asses handed to them and the entire world sitting in horror as they watched Superman battle a mindless monstrosity and ultimately die.

That storyline rocked!  Why?  Because the death of Superman was just the beginning.  It was the way the world reacted after he died and the way that he returned that was the REAL story.  It was worth Superman's death to get to the awesome Reign of the Supermen storyline.  If only the direct to DVD story matched (at all).  Too much for a feature film, though.



Boutros on 11 March 2010

I like Smallville.



rocketpig on 11 March 2010
d21lewis said:
rocketpig said:

Yes. The importance of Superman to the world would have to be firmly established, much like Nolan did with Batman at the end of the Dark Knight. Most of the Doomsday story revolved around everyone else in the Justice League (the bit players, anyway) getting their asses handed to them and the entire world sitting in horror as they watched Superman battle a mindless monstrosity and ultimately die.

That storyline rocked!  Why?  Because the death of Superman was just the beginning.  It was the way the world reacted after he died and the way that he returned that was the REAL story.  It was worth Superman's death to get to the awesome Reign of the Supermen storyline.  If only the direct to DVD story matched (at all).  Too much for a feature film, though.

I liked SOME of the Reign of Supermen storyline. The Superboy kid was annoying and Steel was pretty ridiculous. Most of what I enjoyed was the fallout from Supe's death and how the public dealt with it. That was where they got a lot of things right.

I didn't bring that stuff up because, like you said, there's just no feasible way to work it all into a film.




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d21lewis on 11 March 2010
rocketpig said:
d21lewis said:
rocketpig said:

Yes. The importance of Superman to the world would have to be firmly established, much like Nolan did with Batman at the end of the Dark Knight. Most of the Doomsday story revolved around everyone else in the Justice League (the bit players, anyway) getting their asses handed to them and the entire world sitting in horror as they watched Superman battle a mindless monstrosity and ultimately die.

That storyline rocked!  Why?  Because the death of Superman was just the beginning.  It was the way the world reacted after he died and the way that he returned that was the REAL story.  It was worth Superman's death to get to the awesome Reign of the Supermen storyline.  If only the direct to DVD story matched (at all).  Too much for a feature film, though.

I liked SOME of the Reign of Supermen storyline. The Superboy kid was annoying and Steel was pretty ridiculous. Most of what I enjoyed was the fallout from Supe's death and how the public dealt with it. That was where they got a lot of things right.

I didn't bring that stuff up because, like you said, there's just no feasible way to work it all into a film.

I'm not sure I like you, anymore.



rocketpig on 11 March 2010

My name is still green, bitch. Bring it.

Just kidding. You're an alright guy.

...

No, no you're not. I take that back.




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