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RF cables pwn all! Just screw it on, change it to channel 3! and sure, PS3 is aimed at technology savvy people. No argument there. But there are more of them than there are of us (non-technology savvy people, that is) And 8 hours? what takes you so long? Put mobo in case, put in ram, hd, dvd-rom, all the cards you need, put in windows cd, take a nap, and you're done!

 

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aaaand It seems like I missed my own point. This in NO WAY means that only tech savvy people get PS3's and only non-tech savvy people get Wii's. I consider myself to be tech savvy and I plan on getting a Wii, and I know of plenty of non-tech savvy people that drool over PS3's.  Nothing here is mutually exclusiv



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Well the PS3 doesn't even come with an HD cable so those who don't know better probably wouldn't know they need a new cable to get the real HD graphics and will just play 480i on their HDTV's. :p



I have a feeling that even when PS3's drop to mass-market price (sub $300), a lot of people who start buying it are going to be playing at 480i. :)



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Kwaad said:

Your right. People cant hook up TVs. But it's easier to hook up a PS3 than it is a Wii.

Why? Plug wire into PS3/Wii.

For the Wii, you now plug 3 color coded wires... into the proper plugs.

For the PS3, Plug... the... one plug... into the only thing on the TV that will take it.

 

THe Wii would have the biggest problems with this, becuase it is aimed at NON-gamers. 90 year old grandmas, 5 year old children, and their incopetent mothers.

The PS3 is aimed at technology savvy people.

(I can build a entire computer from being in packaging to running a game in about 8 hours)
(when I say packaging I mean each part. I build mine)


Dude you are actually ALLwrong,both the Wii and the PS3 come with the SAME cable in the box... for someone to know that they need to plug in the one... plug... in they would first know that they need to PURCHASE that cable in order to do that...

Albiet, I think most people buying PS3's at the moment wouldn't be in this sort of situation because I think the more technology educated people are people buying the PS3 at the moment, so it is all a bit mute...

Plugging in one cable to yr hd set top box, what if you want to output the sound to your receiver? At the PS3 launch night at one of my local store the tech staff were having a DAMN lot of trouble outputting HDMI and sound of a different sort so they could run the sound through not the speakers on the TV, but the speakers attached to the amp for surround sound.

The problem with your argument against the Wii is also mute because the system that these people are using to hook up their Wii's is the yellow, red, white plugs... this caused trouble for consumers during the SNES, N64 and mildly some during the GameCube generation, plugging the yellow in the yellow, white in the white, red in the red, has become common practice for most of these people now and very few people ask how to do this any mor. 



Kwaad said:

Your right. People cant hook up TVs. But it's easier to hook up a PS3 than it is a Wii.

Why? Plug wire into PS3/Wii.

For the Wii, you now plug 3 color coded wires... into the proper plugs.

For the PS3, Plug... the... one plug... into the only thing on the TV that will take it.

 

THe Wii would have the biggest problems with this, becuase it is aimed at NON-gamers. 90 year old grandmas, 5 year old children, and their incopetent mothers.

The PS3 is aimed at technology savvy people.

(I can build a entire computer from being in packaging to running a game in about 8 hours)
(when I say packaging I mean each part. I build mine)


 You sure you mean 8 hours? Seriously 8 hours? It shouldn't take that long?

If you were drastically overclocking and mem testing etc then it should take a lot longer.

But if you're talking about putting the mobo in a case, plugging in cpu, ram, psu, vga card, sound card, sata / pci hd, dvd drive, front case ports etc should take max 1 hour and then it's 30 mins - 1 hour for operating system install.

 BTW Kwaad I bought the 8800GTS during the week... brilliant piece of hardware :D



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That Guy said:

Would your mom be able to figure it out?

People who aren't around technology, i.e. computers and TV's and stuff won't be able to be as savvy as those who are around technology all the time, i.e. gamers.

 

That doesn't mean they're dumb.

 

I can recompile my linux kernel in about 20-30 minutes, but that doesn't mean the general populus is dumb because they don't know what recompiling means, (or what linux is, or even what a kernel is). I'm just around computers so it seems easy for me!

 


 yahh they are DUMB,

 anyone that cant follow basic instrustions how to plug in a cable is dumb.

 PS3 has instrustion for all the cables.



OriGin said:
Kwaad said:

Your right. People cant hook up TVs. But it's easier to hook up a PS3 than it is a Wii.

Why? Plug wire into PS3/Wii.

For the Wii, you now plug 3 color coded wires... into the proper plugs.

For the PS3, Plug... the... one plug... into the only thing on the TV that will take it.

 

THe Wii would have the biggest problems with this, becuase it is aimed at NON-gamers. 90 year old grandmas, 5 year old children, and their incopetent mothers.

The PS3 is aimed at technology savvy people.

(I can build a entire computer from being in packaging to running a game in about 8 hours)
(when I say packaging I mean each part. I build mine)


You sure you mean 8 hours? Seriously 8 hours? It shouldn't take that long?

If you were drastically overclocking and mem testing etc then it should take a lot longer.

But if you're talking about putting the mobo in a case, plugging in cpu, ram, psu, vga card, sound card, sata / pci hd, dvd drive, front case ports etc should take max 1 hour and then it's 30 mins - 1 hour for operating system install.

BTW Kwaad I bought the 8800GTS during the week... brilliant piece of hardware :D


 Nice buy. Bet your CPU limited. :p

Nah, it takes between 1-2 hours to set everything up. When you come up with a problem like... There is no pinout info to hookup the USB on the front of the case... you spend about 3 hours doing research to get that right. :D

Also, when your XP disc has a nasty scratch on the boot sector, you have to go back, install win98,  start the XP install and remove win98, and pray to god it works the first time, and if it dont. Add about 2-3 hours. 

It takes me about 4-5 hours to get the OS installed. And then it takes me about 1 hour to get all my drivers slapped together. After that, I make sure everything is running right, OC the crap out of everything, watch the temps for about a hour. After makeing sure I will have no heat problems, set clock to stock speeds, and start playing games. If there are any heat problems, add about 1 hour per problem.

I have lost 1 computer I built. The motherboards ability to use IDE failed...

That and I almost smoked my old P4 becuase of a faulty 5900. I didnt do my checks. Started playing a game, I smelled something. shut the game off, pulled up my temps, and the GPU was at about 110c, and the CPU was at 80c, while the ambient temp was at around 65c.

Since then I make sure I dont have problems. 



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Hus said:
That Guy said:

Would your mom be able to figure it out?

People who aren't around technology, i.e. computers and TV's and stuff won't be able to be as savvy as those who are around technology all the time, i.e. gamers.

 

That doesn't mean they're dumb.

 

I can recompile my linux kernel in about 20-30 minutes, but that doesn't mean the general populus is dumb because they don't know what recompiling means, (or what linux is, or even what a kernel is). I'm just around computers so it seems easy for me!

 


yahh they are DUMB,

anyone that cant follow basic instrustions how to plug in a cable is dumb.

PS3 has instrustion for all the cables.


You know, I consider someone who isn't open about other people and their level of education or care about technology to be the dumb one.



Kwaad said:
OriGin said:
Kwaad said:



Nice buy. Bet your CPU limited. :p

Nah, it takes between 1-2 hours to set everything up. When you come up with a problem like... There is no pinout info to hookup the USB on the front of the case... you spend about 3 hours doing research to get that right. :D

Also, when your XP disc has a nasty scratch on the boot sector, you have to go back, install win98, start the XP install and remove win98, and pray to god it works the first time, and if it dont. Add about 2-3 hours.

It takes me about 4-5 hours to get the OS installed. And then it takes me about 1 hour to get all my drivers slapped together. After that, I make sure everything is running right, OC the crap out of everything, watch the temps for about a hour. After makeing sure I will have no heat problems, set clock to stock speeds, and start playing games. If there are any heat problems, add about 1 hour per problem.

I have lost 1 computer I built. The motherboards ability to use IDE failed...

That and I almost smoked my old P4 becuase of a faulty 5900. I didnt do my checks. Started playing a game, I smelled something. shut the game off, pulled up my temps, and the GPU was at about 110c, and the CPU was at 80c, while the ambient temp was at around 65c.

Since then I make sure I dont have problems.


 LOL yep CPU limited like a bitch... sucks, gonna have to spend more money upping that soon :P

Ah yeah I getcha, but you should really just burn another XP cd or something if you've got the key. Screw that long arse method yr using :P

ANYWAY, off topic.