i won't comment until first day numbers are released, i haven't seen preorders yet never do since they don't tell reality how games will sale,

some game underperform like MAG and other do way over like ToV enhanced.

though this international version it's just a port with "english" voices for the japanese, and from what i read a few new playable characters.

so until we see first day sales hold your horse to say if it was a late port failure.

Vesperia had tons of new content for series fans to double dip, it was the first significant release after slim launch so it rode that momentum, and (most importantly) was actually a good game with great word of mouth.

SO4 has more in common with Trusty Bell than with Vesperia.  Preorders alone already indicate it's going to tank in comparison.

First they didn't appear in a while so don't expect them to be avalible this week. We may predict it but I guess it would be better to predict first week sales as those are the one we are going to get.

Talking about SO4: it's expected to bomb. But word of mounth and no special comments guarantee it won't touch Vesperia sales.

My guess - 85k for first week.

SO4 on x360 didnt do any good u think about 60k

Okay, i see....no first day sales..dam'n it - i cant wait ^^

Ps: 1 Blu Ray and more effects@tonio

first day sales don't leak anymore, it's a shame but it's true. SO4 is probably gonna bomb in comparison to ToV, i'm gonna guess around 60k-80k first week.

@jarrod trusry bell ps3 had more extra chars than ps3 vesperia the reason it didn't was that it was a new IP unknown brougt from 360 to ps3 owners as for Tales it is known to ps owners and it is the first Tales this gen on PS3 thats why it sold a lot and SO is also known series to ps owners that 's why you can 't compare it to TB

@ Marco yes the single disc is the only good feature for japanese gamers. I don't think they care about english voices or international subtitles...

@ ps3_jrpg_gamer ES ps3 got good extra, but less than TOV ps3. It is shocking the amount of new content in this game.

A large of stocks still remain around my neighbor shop....
it would be better to wait till price down

60k