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sales2099 said:
goopy20 said:

MS is targeting the specs that would reach them the highest amount of players. That currently means a GTX1060 or lower on pc as that's what roughly 50% of the pc gamers have. And they will never push the SSD tech until 1TB SSD's and PCIe 4.0 becomes mainstream on PC. Who knows how long that will take, could be 1 year or could be 3 years.

What we do know is that games like Horizon Zero Dawn 2 and Spiderman 2 will be able to take full advantage on things like the SSD tech and Ray Tracing as Sony's developers don't have to think about their games running on a whole bunch of less capable devices. That's normally the beauty of consoles. They are a closed platform and developers can make full use of the hardware and do things that weren't possible on previous gen. I mean look at Ray Tracing. Sure, we're already seeing it in pc games where it's a toggle on/off setting. But those games were never build with Ray Tracing in mind. Who knows what they will do with it but here's a glimpse of what Ray Tracing can potentially mean for games that are designed from the ground up to use it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO2hv2jqt-g 

“The highest amount of players” by making them for PC and scaling down all the way to base XB1. I think you are grossly misinterpreting MSs goal. Do you have any proof whatsoever on what PC specs MS is targeting? And I’d pump the brakes on your optimism...Sony doesn’t exactly have the best history with making use of launch titles ;)

Because on smaller budget titles who cares but for AAA titles, it would be bad for MS to have the Series X games look better then their PC counterpart. That’s just absurd. Fact is that they said they would make for PC first and trickle down the specs accordingly....stands to reason their PC specs are higher then PS5s.

Still have no comment on 3rd party games being superior??They only make up 90% of all Xbox and Ps game sales...no biggie right lol

Look if you acted a little humble and just doubled down on Sony’s superior 1st party portfolio I’d have a lot more respect for your faction of fans. It’s fact and I can’t argue Sony’s stellar games history. But if you insist on clinging to some misplaced hope that Ms will gimp their own exclusives because that’s the only way you can thinly preserve the “power argument” in Sony’s favour...that tells me a lot. First and foremost it’s a smokescreen for insecurity. 

To any other Sony fans reading this...do you all share this sentiment. I’m trying Really Hard to not generalize an entire fan base here. Lol 

They are not going to use high-end pc as the base specs and then scale down to the Xone man, they're using the Xone as the base platform and scale up for X1X, Series X and PC. Think Gears 5, which some say is one of the best multiplatform games in how it uses the strengths of all platforms. It's the same game across the board where on Xone its running at 30fps and 1080p, on the X1X you get 4k and 60fps. And on high-end pc you get basically the same version as on X1X but with higher res textures. 

It definitely looks and plays better on X1X and PC, but it's not like it's a different game with better ai, physics etc. At it's core it's designed to play exactly the same on all platforms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6v19Ffjs5U   

And yes, multiplatform games should look a bit better on Series X, but it's normal for 3rd party games to be cross-gen for 1 or 2 years. Like I said, it are the exclusives that are supposed to showcase what the new consoles can do early on. Even if they are glorified tech demos.