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d21lewis on 25 December 2019
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Jaicee said:
d21lewis said:

The male version of "Mary Sue" is called a "Gary Stu" and the term came from some fanfic about a character named Mary Sue who met the Star Trek crew, everyone instantly fell in love with, and was great at everything. She dies heroically at the end of the story (I think it was self sacrifice) and everyone mourned her death. There was no depth to her comically bad character aside being perfect.

Males can also be called "Mary Sue" instead of Gary Stu. It had nothing to do with women. Just the name of the character.

-I haven't read the rest of your post. Gonna do that now.

*Edit* Read the rest of the post. I respect your opinion and I don't think we despise you. In fact, I think you're pretty awesome. We're just having a discussion and, while I can't speak for anyone else, I don't mean to come off as abrasive.

Name one use of the term Gary Stu you have seen before. Use a link.

I request as much because, so common is this apparent male version in usage that I have never heard of it before in my life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue

BUT let me say that with character flaws and obstacles that Rey had to overcome in RoS, I no longer see her as a "Mary Sue" and there were actually moments I feared she would die.