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Jaicee said:
KLAMarine said:

"purchasing sex from someone is not principally different from raping them."

One involves getting permission, the other doesn't.

The two are different.

First of all, that depends on how consensual their prostitution is.

Secondly, my point was that there is no difference in spirit. You're making someone (most likely a rape survivor who doesn't know better) have sex with you who almost certainly wouldn't otherwise, and mind you strictly on their terms at that. If the other person has to dissociate in order to weather the experience, clearly they are miserable. That's not what sex is supposed to be like.

Your view on "what sex is supposed to be like" is not the be-all, end-all that everyone else should be bound by. Sex can mean many different things to many different people, it's in reality not some Hollywood-ized romanticized version either. I've read many articles where they say it's just not that big of a deal and they like the life style it affords them and it's easier than working a regular 9-to-5 job. 

Most people are miserable at their jobs. You think the person who works as a janitor likes cleaning toilets or the maid likes cleaning puke off bed sheets at a hotel? Even people working office jobs that are driving them to exhaustion.

No they don't. They do it for pay, and I imagine they'd rather be thinking about something else than cleaning a toilet, but it isn't slavery to pay someone to do that. 

If it's legal it's something that's much easier to give the worker's rights. They get mandatory regular check ins from police and health professionals to make sure there is no coercion going on and that there's always access to a safety net when ever they want it. 

They can choose to work with only a select few clients they are comfortable with as well much more easily in a legal setting. It's one of those things where making it illegal makes sexual puritans feel better about themselves, but it actually doesn't really help any of the people who choose to work in that profession. Making it illegal forces them to have to take greater risks to procure clients, work with people they may otherwise not choose to, have to go to locations they are not comfortable with which they wouldn't have to in a legal setting, and takes away law enforcement/health resources that are easily available in a regulated, legal environment. 

Your points made earlier in the thread about Amsterdam are also disingenuous, many workers there do favor a proposal to ban "tours" but those are like ridiculous tour groups/family groups/groups of seniors that want to walk around for morbid curiosity. The overwhelming majority of the workers are against banning the RLD entirely and are protesting the mayor's overall plans and have been quite vocal on that, but conveniently of course the actual opinions/voices of the people working don't get paid any heed when it doesn't fit a certain narrative. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 12 August 2019