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Azzanation on 09 August 2019
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Pemalite said:
Azzanation said:

This is where people are blinded by forceful decisions because people only want to push the blame on something. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Drugs don't kill people, people taking drugs kills people.
Ergo drugs should be legalized and readily available in brick and mortar stores right?

Azzanation said:

You can try to take Guns away from people.. guess what, you will be only taking guns away from good people, the bad guys will still have guns. That will be the outcome because Guns are not the issue, its deeper than guns.

You can try to take Drugs away from people.. guess what, you will be only taking Drugs away from good people, the bad guys will still have Drugs. That will be the outcome because Drugs are not the issue, its deeper than Drugs.

Exact same argument.

I do have to ask though legitimately after poking holes through your highly flawed logic, why are you ignoring how successful other countries have been in enacting gun control? It's saved countless lives. Are lives not highly valued where you come from?

Azzanation said:

Humans need to stop blaming things on other things and instead find the real issues behind them. Guns and Video games are not why these shootings happen. Evil people will be evil people regardless if they have guns or not.

The same arguments you have presented could also be leveraged for the legalization and sale of Meth in brick and mortar stores, if you cannot see how such rhetoric is ultimately flawed... And if you are willing to ignore the substantial evidence that many developed nations have in regards to the success of gun control... I am not sure you could be convinced of anything at this point... And thus perhaps this entire discussion is moot?

That is a flawed logic on your end. Taking drugs and buying a gun are two completely different things. How can you even say they are the same thing? Buying a gun is harmless, buying a car is harmless. Both can be used in a very dangerous manner and they have both killed people. Your comparison is like saying, buying a gun is no different to eating Rat poison. Umm.. yeah is it, Meth is bad, it harms your health, there is no bright side to taking meth. Having a gun is like owning a Sword or big Knife, it can be used for hobbies, people like to collect etc. Drugs? That's a face palm.

You are answering your own debate. Try taking drugs away from people, we have, how has that worked in the land of no drugs? Do people still take drugs? do people still die from drug use? Do drugs still get sold regardless of the law enforcement? You should know the answer to that.

Great, place more laws on gun control, I want them too and I understand people can still have guns with laws in place.. however my debate with you is that it wont make a difference because criminals and killers will still get the guns and still go on massacres. Do you actually think by adding more laws with guns that these things will suddenly stop? especially in a country with a massive black market scene? Why do we have a big death toll on the road? People have to go out and get a license, we enforce the road rules a lot, especially in Australia.. why are there still deaths? Nice having rules in place, feels more like government control than actual life saving. Same with guns. 

You know who else didn't want the public to have guns? Hitler. How did that go for Germany, oh that's right, the public was dictated and couldn't do a thing about it. They couldn't even defend themselves.