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Chazore said:

I'm sorry, but what?.

Viv didn't specifically say "Steam only", but you did. PC isn't Steam only, it's more than just Steam, and even then Steam supports the modding community, which is something non existent on consoles. 

before Steam we didn't even have good bargain sales, or CD key sites offering really good deals, so your "back in my day it was objectively better" is just plain silly and untrue.

What "things that are limited to one producer"?. What does that even mean by "one producer"?.

"biased optimization"?. Last I checked, AMD and Nvidia released drivers for the cards they were selling, not ancient ass old cards that aren't on the market today.

Star Citizen is chugging along just fine, in case you haven't already checked, but I guess you haven't at all, going by your other baseless comments. 

wow, that last comment. Holy moly are you not trying to hide your very title namesake.

Could you be any more dishonest and brutally wrong/biased yourself?.

Yes, I'm going to call you out, because it's blatantly made in a response to put down the open platform, that has done and still does so much more for gaming, in regards to you trying to make your box of choice as being somehow "superior". 

I thought this kind of garbage would have stopped when Kero was gone, but no, it's still here, with someone else instead. 

No need 2b sorry mate, I just wanted to avoid a wall of text, but here we go.

So ofc there are other eshops than Steam, thank God, the competition is back on the market, but I think it kinda backfired at PC gamers so far. Epic is doing it wrong way so far imo. Time will tell,but lets not make it too long.

The Workshops and free mods are a pros of PC market, but to some extent it is also on consoles, like the Skyrim mods, or even userfeedback projects like PS4's Dreams. I talk only about legal mods, because CFM does a lot of tricks.

And of course there are things that consoles do and PC doesn't - in general - like a retail games for example. 

The discounts on PC market are now comparable to PS/Xbox deals, it was totally not like that during PS360 era. Not to even mention the new PC games' price is mostly on par with console counterparts,at least here where I do live, Steam tax pushed things up.Of course there can be other areas where things are diferent, Im speaking my POV.

By biased optimalisation I mean the games that are AMD or Nvidia " friendly", last time it was picked up during Ryzen7/9:Navi presentation. There is more of it, like Rise of The Tomb Raider but it is enough for now.

You are guessing wrong if you think that Star Citizen is in any form of good shape. But this is the story for the whole new thread and it will not be baseless. Not a single bit.

I dont know any Kero, but if he/she was clever enough to pick up obvious points, I would shake a hand.