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HylianSwordsman said:
Azuren said:

Your dad is one person. Thanks for providing me the very argument necessary to disregard that entire paragraph.

Okay, so you claim they're spin-offs, but also claim the numbering system is an issue? Sounds like you're having an issue deciding one which hill you should die. So I'll reiterate again: the unnumbered titled make up the majority of the series and don't feature mere side stories (though you could definitely make a strong argument for Re:Coded). Days is a parallel story about Roxas that ties into the prologue of KH2 and is necessary to know about Xion. Chain of Memories is sequentially after KH1 and players would have no idea what was going on in the beginning oh KH2. Birth By Sleep sets up six important main characters, including the true form of the series antagonist. Dream Drop Distance is the same as Chain of Memories in that it picks up immediately after KH2. These aren't spin-offs, they are major chapters in a series that will leave you behind if you miss even one.

And I already answered your question. Multiple times. Here it is again: referring to these important main entries of the series as spin-offs sets them up as optional games for the story. The result is people thinking that they can play three titles in Kingdom Hearts and have a grasp on the story, only to realize they were dead wrong.

Of course he is. I only mentioned him to prove my point that I can just as easily cite example to the contrary, so don't use anecdotal evidence.

I've explained this multiple times. They're spinoffs. I have no issue with the numbering system. I have an issue with how the story was presented. Take Chain of Memories for instance. Why the fuck does it exist as a game? There's so little actual plot in that game, so little real substance, it's mostly just wandering through watered down versions of places we've already been. What little actual plot there was could have been a part of KH2. The whole game could have, honestly, in an extremely abridged form that skipped the endless revisiting of old content, by just having Castle Oblivion be the 1st world, condensing all the actual story moments into an interesting prologue. Just one example of how they could have done it, I'm sure you could come up with a better one with enough time, just please, not the way they actually did it. Of course if did neglect to make Chain of Memories a separate game, then we wouldn't have had that glorious card battle system, oh what a tragedy. But yeah, you're proving my point about how the story is presented. It's just so obnoxious. They are spinoffs, but that's not what makes it obnoxious. Like forevercloud3000 said below, they wear the continuity too thin.

No, I'm asking a different question there. I know what your point is, but I disagree. What I don't get is why you're so emotional over this. So many people in this thread got up in arms about this. You're not going to convince me, so why bother? I'm going to keep playing Kingdom Hearts game, having this opinion, and sharing this opinion when I talk about Kingdom Hearts with other people. No one in this thread will change that. Your gatekeeping changes nothing, because you're not the arbiter of who gets to be a KH fan.

Honestly, at this point I've given up with you. I don't know what part of being a main, integral entry in n overarching story isn't getting through to you, but apparently your brain seems to be stuck in "NO NUMBER IN TITLE? MUST BE A SPIN-OFF" mode. The fact remains that they aren't spin-offs, they're main entries that don't have numbers in the titles because, as we all know, Kingdom Hearts naming convention is a meme. You can scream at the top of your lungs that they are spin-offs, and like I said before you could make that argument for titles like Re:coded (which, if we're honest, only explains one thing that no one cared about). But titles like Chain of Memories, Birth by Sleep, and Dream Drop Distance are as integral to the overall narrative as any of the titles that arbitrarily have numbers in them.



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