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haxxiy said:
Jumpin said:

The thing about killing Lenin is that he was simply a member at the top of the pile for Russian Republicans. It is highly likely a USSR-like totalitarian Empire would have emerged no matter what given the Czarist history of Russia. However, if the leftists managed to win instead, it’s possibly that they could have avoided Totalitarian rulership. But that’s a lot of people to kill in order to allow a faction like the Trotskyiests or Black Army to win. And even if that did occur, given Russian culture, there’s no guarantee the state wouldn’t revert back to a Czarist-like totalitarian state.

Also, killing Lenin opens the door to Slavic fascist rule.

Well, not even the Germans could have predicted the large effect Lenin would have after being released. I don't think the Russian situation was particularly worse than what was happening in Turkey or China, or even parts of Mainland Europe (late in the war, that is). Getting rid of him might avert the black swan event entirely.

Turkey or China wasn't a threat to humanity as we know it. Perhaps in terms of what those countries did to local peoples. China was fairly brutal in the 19th century as well as the 20th. Turkey was far more small scale. Russia had a brutal history too, genocides weren't exactly new under the USSR. What did become new is the rapid upgrading of technology. Somehow, totalitarian republics seem to have an easy time upgrading their technology at a fast rate. Probably because they don't mind starving and killing millions to push past maximum efficiency.



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