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Eagle367 said:
VAMatt said:

Okay.  I'm not going to argue that humans are perfect.  We clearly are not.  But, I hold to my claim that were better off now than at any other time in human history.  

As to the premise that humans need to take care of every species on earth, I'd just have to say that I disagree.  We need to take care of ourselves, and we only need to care about other species to the extent that their survival significantly impacts our own.  And, it appears that, in most cases, those two things are not related to a large enough degree to matter.  

So 2 different things indeed. Because if you shat in your pants 12 times a day and now you do it 3, that's still not taking care of yourself

Well, I do not agree that we (humans) aren't "taking care of" ourselves.  I think we're taking great care of ourselves, as evidenced by the fact that life has continually gotten better (on average), since the beginning of human history.  We could always do better.  But, that's not the same as doing poorly.