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Xeon on 22 August 2018
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Lawlight said:
Xeon said:

Well, I've already shared how in one generation my family has already become tax paying, hard working, and integrated part of society. Maybe we were lucky and granted it is anecdotal, but the possibility is still there.

It may not be in my lifetime, but who cares? I firmly believe it would pay off eventually. Imagine if these immigrants became tax paying citizens. The benefits of that may not show with them but what about taxing their children when they work? Or their children's children? And on it goes. Would that not pay off sooner or later?

You know why it was possible for your family? Because there weren’t millions of others trying to get in at the same time. You’re also forgetting that not everyone will integrate. Statistics show that, in australia, 69% of refugees fail to get a job after 5 years and more than 83% of the households rely on welfare.

You might not care but the lowering of quality of life will affect other people. And just having tax paying citizens isn’t enough. There is such a thing as overpopulation. Infrastructure cannot expand forever.

Back in 1979-80 Canada accepted 60,000 Vietnamese refugees alone. They even won an award for it. My family came later when restrictions became much tighter. I'm not sure where you're getting the millions trying to get into Canada number from, but that's just not the case right now.

You're right that not everyone will integrate but most will. Its a great challenge for new immigrants but their descendants will be more successful.

Like I said, its a short term burden we all bare, but that's where we can make our government accountable. The Trudeau Government spent 4.5 billion dollars to buy a pipeline. The Trump one is dedicating almost 900 billion to the military. This lady questioned Trudeau about spending a much smaller amount to support refugees but maybe she should spend her energy elsewhere.

Sad to hear about the ratio of joblessness and welfare of refugees in Australia. Is there a reason for this, I wonder? Does the ratio change after 10 years? 15 years? What about the children of these refugees in Australia? Are they more successful?

Of course there are limits and overpopulation is very real but Canada has about 36 million people. There is certainly room for growth here.