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Jumpin said:
o_O.Q said:

porn commodifies the bodies of women for the exploitation of men, allowing men to bypass the normal negotiation for consent for sexual access

 

it literally parallels and emulates rape since the man does not have to get to know the woman or anything, its all about sexual access at the click of a button

 

i just cannot understand how its not immediately clear how evil porn is

Your missionary work is not going to work here.

Both men and women watch porn, both women and men act in porn. These facts alone destroy your assumptions. Also, there's no bypass of consent for sexual access, contracts are negotiated like any other acting gig. The definition of rape is NOT "having anonymous sex" either. And watching two other people have sex on a screen is NOT having sex with them. Seeing someone naked is not rape by any definition in the world in any place in the history of humanity; the closest it ever got was in the Restoration period England back in the 17th century where women acting (nude or not) was equated to prostitution - and that's also a bit because actresses often took prostitution side-gigs in that era.

The reason you are having trouble understanding is because your premises have no basis in reality. Rather, they sound like they originated in some kind of puritanical cult.

The fact of the matter is that the countries where porn is illegal are also the countries with the most misogynist cultures; these include every country where female genital mutilation is enforced and prevalent, and every country where women lack rights as simple as having uncovered hair.

"Both men and women watch porn, both women and men act in porn."

which is irrelevant

 

"Also, there's no bypass of consent for sexual access, contracts are negotiated like any other acting gig."

men who consume women's bodies through pornographic imagery do not negotiate with those women for access to their bodies

that's what i'm referring to

ordinarily a man would have to meet a woman and get to know her over a period of time and then progress to sexual activity WITH HER CONSENT

on the other hand when a man watches porn in private he's bypassing the normal preliminary process of getting the know the woman and building trust with her and instead reducing her down to an object with the sole purpose of gratifying him sexually

 

"eeing someone naked is not rape by any definition in the world in any place in the history of humanity"

good thing i didn't say that then

 

"The reason you are having trouble understanding "

understanding what exactly? your defense of pornography?


"The fact of the matter is that the countries where porn is illegal are also the countries with the most misogynist cultures"

there is a rape culture in the west also but this is irrelevant regardless