Ganoncrotch said:
AsGryffynn said:
I was actually going to mention this. At 6TF, Microsoft basically cornered the competitors before the next generation even started in the first place. Jumping much higher after this yields negligible benefits to performance, and the cost will skyrocket afterwards. Attempting to go further might be costly, so Sony either needs to find a way to be better which precludes power, or risk MS starting with an already vast catalog and around a million or more users.
They actually played a good hand this time. They did something that would ensure they remained the top dog one way or another once this generation ends...
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If that graphical power was coupled with a CPU half way capable of utilizing it, would blow the X out of the water in games like Assassins creed where you have cpu hungry scenes killing the X, stick a Ryzen 1600 in place of the Jaguar and you have a next generational Console instantly.
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A Ryzen is rather expensive now, and a lot of people don't notice these differences now. Why would they then?
DonFerrari said:
Ganoncrotch said:
Feels strange when such a hot new console is already being bundled with €100 of extras by gamestop to sell some for Christmas
Also if you ask me... a terrible idea to ship a premium console like the Xbox1X along with basically a beta of a game which chugs down as low as 4fps on the system at times... I would feel terrible if I was a clueless gamer and got home to my new system to find it ran the only game I got for it like that. Would be instant buyers remorse.
As for talking about a consoles launch week as though it's some sort of "come back" against the other systems. Wow
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Yep I don't think MS choose good games to show-off the potential of X1X, with those simple looking indies, Minecraft 4k, Crackdown 3 and now a pre-release game that doesn't look pretty.
AsGryffynn said:
I was actually going to mention this. At 6TF, Microsoft basically cornered the competitors before the next generation even started in the first place. Jumping much higher after this yields negligible benefits to performance, and the cost will skyrocket afterwards. Attempting to go further might be costly, so Sony either needs to find a way to be better which precludes power, or risk MS starting with an already vast catalog and around a million or more users.
They actually played a good hand this time. They did something that would ensure they remained the top dog one way or another once this generation ends...
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It shall not cost more than 399 USD to put a lot better machine in 2020-2021 that is when I expect PS5. Even more when CPU can be a lot better without additional costs by that time.
Random_Matt said:
6TF is such a waste with a shit CPU.
At the end of the day, it's still mostly a sub 30FPS box.
$500, what a rip off.
My opinion of course.
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The idea behind both Pro and X1X is more on resolution improvement, so keeping the fps at the same level was important to keep the leveled playfield between base and midgen HW. So the CPU upclock is just enough to keep the same framerate at the additional pixelcount.
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But to what end? Graphically, they are as high as you can get without jumping a really far. This is what I am referring to. Each gen, a console has sold on the idea that something changed. Either DVDs, online multiplayer or PC functions and resolution. The next generation is either a long way off, will need a gimmick to work, be entirely portable, or limit itself to negligible graphical improvements.
Since when do devs bother creating a powerful AI or using all of the processors' power? They didn't do with the XBO except for a few games, then they stopped doing it altogether once the XBX was announced, which is my whole point. They will attempt nothing and instead cut corners to sell a profitable product instead.
