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Miyamotoo said:

"Anyone thinking that the Switch and the PS4 are not stealing sales from one another is just being delusional. There are people out there in the world, or in this case Japan, that are choosing between the two. If both didn't exist, they would get the one that did. But since they both exist, some people are choosing one or the other". Point is simple, PS4 sales in some way would probably be better in Japan also like in rest world where PS4 is notcible YOY up, if Switch isnt so much popular in Japan.

How exactly thats make my argument invalid, fact that 1st party games are best selling Switch games doesn't mean that they are selling only to Nintendo fans. Offocurse that great and incredibly popular games like Zelda BotW, MK8D, Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey can be bouth and buy people that are not Nintendo fans. Like I wrote, you can buy Switch for Zelda BotW, MK8D, Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey even if you are not Nintendo fan because of great reception (I mean Zelda BotW and Mario Odyssey are one best critically acclaimed games ever, MK8D is one of best MK game ever and Splatoon is strongest new IP in Japan) and popularity of those games, huge Switch popularity and hype in Japan, or portability of Switch, and Switch is also home console in same time like PS4, can easily affect someone to choose Switch instead of PS4. We already seeing plenty of people that saying that Switch is their first Nintendo console in long time (in couple of generations) or even first Nintendo console ever.

The problem in your argument is you cannot accept that the 2 can co-exist.
At the moment they don't share the same library. Even with the future releases it's still different. MHW is just a month away do you think Switch  will steal sales from those people who are anticipating it?
And there's a reason I see 2018 as the real test because that is the time where 3RD party devs from Japan will start to release games for the Switch be it exclusive or mulit plat from the PS4. 

You are also ignoring sales trend just take a look at the sales trend in 2015, and 2016. You are also ignoring the climate of home console in Japan. 2014 is horrible.

Week 9 2016 - 28,863 
Week 9 2017 -37,807 ( Switch Launch)/ Switch - 329,152

Week 10 2016 - 27,341
Week 10 2017 - 35,300 (Post Switch launch) / Switch: 61.998

Week 11 2016 - 27,354
Week 11 2017 - 34,628 / Switch: 49.913

Week 12 2016 - 34,377
Week 12 2016 - 30,733 / Switch: 78.441

Week 13 2016 - 30,057 
Week 13 2017 - 30,081  / Switch: 45.509

Week 14 2016 -  23,889 
Week 14 2017 -  24,512 / Switch: 41.193

Week 15 2016 - 20,257 
Week 15 2017 - 21,922 /  Switch: 45.673

Week 16 2016 - 20,589
Week 16 2017 - 19.334  / Switch: 48.694

Week 17 2016 - 28,578
Week 17 2017 - 25,303  / Switch: 76.679

Week 18 2016 - 24,880
Week 18 2017 - 27,954   / Switch: 47.911

Week 19 2016 - 23,239
Week 19 2017 - 17,295 / Switch 24.712 


Week 20 2016 - 18,430  
Week 20 2017 - 17,314 / Switch: 26.114

Week 21 2016 -  24,813
Week 21 2017 - 19,002  / Switch: 27.146

Week 22 2016 - 23.144
Week 22 2017 - 21,346 /  Switch: 23.524 

Week 23 2016 - 19.573
Week 23 2017 - 19.141  /  Switch: 27.291

Week 24 - 20.214 
Week 24 -24.046 / Switch: 37,709  (Arms) 

Week 25 2016-  22.715
Week 25 2017- 25.680  / Switch: 22.361

Week 26 2016 - 23,679
Week 26 2017- 29,194  / Switch: 25.805

Week 27 2016 - 22.717
Week 27 2017 - 29.771/ Switch: 26.256

Week 28 2016 - 20,395

Week 28 2017 - 36,218  / Switch: 31.906

Week 29 2016 - 20,021 
Week 29 2017 - 30,878 / (Splatoon Launch) Switch:98.999

Week 30 2016 - 20,567
Week 30 2017 - 93,356  / Switch:89.314

Week 31 2016 - 16,469
Week 31 2017- 52,939 / Switch:61.933

Week 322016 - 17,433
Week 32 2017- 42,462 / Switch: 87.798

Week 33 2016- 17.596
Week 33 2017- 34.688 / Switch: 22.277

Week 34 2016- 5.812
Week 34 2017- 24.658 / Switch: 69.654 

Week 35 2016 -  1.828
Week 35 2017 - 26.384  / Switch: 50.074

Week 36, 2016 - 560
Week 36 2017 - 29.482 / Switch: 45.439

Week 37, 2016 -  96.433
Week 37, 2017 - 24.660 / Switch: 44.052

Week 38, 2016 - 49.652
Week 38, 2017 - 23.814 / Switch: 43.426 

Week 39 ,2016 - 36.251 
Week, 39, 2017 - 29.369 / Switch: 73.231

Week 40 2014 - 7,350
Week 40 2015- 46,177 (price cut, Night Azure, Winning eleven)
Week 40 2016-  31.071 (blazblue, Slim 3rd week)
Week 40 2017- 25,398 (Dragon's Dogma)

Week 41 2014- 11,697 ( Fifa,Driveclub)
Week 41 2015- 30,349 ( UC collection, FIFA, post price cut)
Week 41 2016- 30,154 (Tombraider, Slim 4th week)
Week 41 2017- 22,706 (Shadow war)


Week 42- 8,046 (nothing)
Week 42-25,699 (nothing)
Week 42- 27,069 ( Battlefield)
Week 42- 31,278 (GTS, City shrouded, Evil within, Itadaki street)


Week 43 2014- 8,942 (evil within)
Week 43 2015- 22,801 (nothing)
Week 43 2016-30,375  (Berserk, Titanfall, World of FF, SAO)
Week 43 2017- 24,653 ( taiko, asscreed, ark)

Week 44 2014- 8,906 (oneechanbara Z)
Week 44 2015 - 22,104 ( God eater)
Week 44 2016- 32,041 (COD, Dragonball Xenoverse, Atelier)
Week 44 2017- 28,823 (COD, .Hack)


Week 45 2014- 10,078 (nothing)
Week 45 2015- 33.442 ( COD BO II)
Week 45 2016- 93,512 (Pro launch, fate exltella)
Week 45 2017- 26,058  (NFS)

Week 46 2014 - 15,537 ( COD advance warfare)
Week 46 2015- 27,311 (Ass Creed syndicate)
Week 46 2016- 38,026  (Post pro launch and Fate Extella)
Week 46 2017 - 26,302  (star wars battle front)

Week 47 2014 - 12,430 ( as creed unity)
Week 47 2015- 29,052 (Star wards battle front, Atelier Sophie)
Week 47 2016- 42,102 ( Pro 3rd week,  and SD gundam)
Week 47 2017- 26,909 ( only Hatsune miku a physical release from a free demo.)

Week 48 2014- 13,489 ( Dragon age Inquisiton)
Week 48 2015- 26,598 (Blade Arcus) 
Week 48 2016 - 118,350 (FFXV with LE edition, Watch Dogs II)
Week 48 2017- ??? 

Week 49 2014 - 15,971 ( Nothing) 
Week 49 2015 - 35,782 (Bloodborne Complete)
Week 49 2016 - 92,717 (Yakuza 6 with LE, Last Guardian, Post FFXV)
week 49 2017 -???

Week 50 2014 - 68,041 (GTA V)
Week 50 2015- 38,497 ( Steins gate, Gravity rush remastered, Holiday)
Week 50 2016- 79,348 ( FF 3rd week, Post Yakuza and Last Guardian Holiday)
Week 50 2017- ??? 

Week 51 2014- 30,951 (post GTA V, Holiday)
week 51 2015- 53,123 ( Fall out, Holiday)
Week 51 2016- 100,238 (Holiday, Slim first holiday)
Week 51 2017 -???

Week 52 2014 - 33,150 ( Holiday)
Week 52 2015 - 53,023 ( Holiday)
Week 52 2016 - 83,337 (Holiday)
Week 52 2017 -???

Week 53 2015 65,427 

See the trend? PS4 is ranging from 20K-32K from 2015-2017. PS4 is selling like PS4 if you follow the trend. 2015 and 2016 Switch is non existent but the sales are still the same. There are spikes if there are notable games that being released. 
Just looking at Q4 2016 it's very massive in terms of releases, price cut, games.  PS4 2017 Q4 is weak compared to q4 2016.
The only week it's up was when GTS was released. It's possible to be up again on Week 49 with MHW LE PS4 pro, MHW beta, Yakuza Kiwami 2, Kamen rider, EDF5 and dead Rising 4 but after that it's unlikely for PS4 to be up again. 

So Is this really the case of Switch stealing sales from the PS4 or  is it just PS4 doesn't have a strong Q4 and sales are reflecting it? because historically speaking and the sales trend from the previous years even without the Switch it will still sell the same. 

For the 2nd part. I misread sorry but you cannot really blame me.
"Point that Switch are buying only Nintendo fans in Japan is wrong."
It's really hard for me to understand that one.



Last edited by NoCtiS_NoX - on 05 December 2017