By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Yeah, when I say dude bro multiplayer, I mean like COD and Gears. Uncharted isn't a dude bro game and neither is Last of Us. Those games are well thought out with an almost (if not) Hollywood level of writing.

Phil Spencer said the fanbase for single player games is shrinking? LOL hardly. He's most likely speaking in general because he highlighted that Sony and Nintendo have succeeded in that region where they have failed. Microsoft seems to be following the EA template of making multiplayer games and games as a service.  Have you seen how much these single player games have made this year? Uncharted alone is a sign of the great possible sales one can achieve if made well.

Nintendo and Sonys core market isn't shrinking for single player games. They are stable. Micrososfts single player game sales last gen were clearly dependent on the gamers who jumped ship from the PS2 to the 360. That was the point I was trying to make to you earlier. Zelda is already past 4 million in sales and Horizon is almost if not already at 4 million. 

Uncharted MP is very dudebro. They even have the loot boxes and cosmetics and microtransactions now. Again, have you played it? Listened to the people who play it? Very dudebro. What does writing have to do with it? You originally said Xbox gamers are more drawn to "dudebro games with multiplayer". So what does SP writing have to do with multiplayer? You're shifting the goal posts. Either way it's irrelevant because like I said, the PS4 best sellers list is chock full of dudebro shooters.

Still waiting on your link to this Spencer discussion, interested in reading it. And yeah, you can point to big name franchises and mega hyped titles all day, it doesn't mean anything. So Zelda has hit 4 million.. what does this mean about most other SP titles?

Yes, I said Xbox gamers are attracted more to dude bro multiplayer games than single player story driven titles. Even at the very core, single player AAA experiences are not being supported. Xbox wouldn't have half the problems it is today if gamers were not supporting games like Ryse, Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive. Microsoft is saying the same things as EA because they are revealing the same data EA seems to be gathering from their console as a whole. I am not shifting any goal posts. I was expressing the disappointment that that the install base does not support single player AAA experiences as well as they should. Also, if Sony has a high selling platform, don't you think the dude bros are going to have to the popular platform? I was just saying that the Xbox is the type of brand that likes to make games people who love EA annualized titles would like to get. Gears and Halo are right up the dude bros alley. Last of Us has awesome manhunt style multiplayer, but do you think a dude bro is going to choose that over COD? LOL no. The dude bros are on it primarily for COD, Battlefield, Fifa, Madden, etc. I am happy that Spencer realizes that if he wants single player games to sell hes going to try to make a huge blockbuster next gen that will draw single player gamers over to the Xbox. Perhaps a huge, elaborate and critically acclaimed WRPG and another multiplayer Shooter. Those games will sell well on the Xbox. One thing that I will give core Xbox gamers is that they will buy a good WRPG. Microsofts WRPG DNA is lined with WRPG's from PC. That's probably why they a game similar to Horizon. Spencer has said himself hes wanted games like Uncharted, and after failures he saw fit to get the timed exclusivity of Tomb Raider to have a game to face off against Uncharted 4. 

 

Again....better luck next gen.

I've actually linked you to the Spencer discussion in the past where he spoke of Sony and Nintendos fanbase ability