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DevilRising said:
Perhaps we could all stop caring about the Russia-Trump Conspiracy, and just all admit like rational, educated adults, that he man was a joke of a human being long before he ever decided to start pretending to be a politician, and it is one of the single biggest embarrassments in United States history that a person such as this could literally buy his way into the White House, because people on the far right are too idiotic to put up an even half-way decent candidate, and people on the far left, were too blind and enamored with the idea of "Having Our First Lady President", that they ignored the DECENT candidate running against her.

It is a sick joke that Donald Trump got elected President of the United States of a America, without question. I have no doubt that history will see it that way. BUT, what people in America are CONTINUING to be willfully blind to, is the fact that the reason this even HAPPENED, or was even POSSIBLE to happen, is specifically BECAUSE of what you see, everywhere, even in here, in in this thread. You want to talk about Americans being "brainwashed" or conditioned? Try the fact that the Americans who actually BOTHER voting in the first place, have been conditioned for decades to vote for one of the Big Two parties, ignoring all other options. And that most of THEM, be them "Dem" or "GOP", can and often will blindly vote for whatever candidate their party puts in front of them in a given election, because that's what they've been told is the right thing to do. Because, as we all know, "The Democrats have to SAVE the country by keeping those evil Republicans out of office", and "The Republicans have to SAVE the country by keeping out those evil DEMS". It's an insipid, childish cycle, and the only people who ever actually win in this ongoing scenario, are the Big Two parties, the rich candidates they prop up, and their corporate special interest friends.

First of all, this last election saw one of the lowest ACTUAL voter turnouts in a very long time. So when you talk about "incredibly close" final vote percentages, you're talking about portions of an even SMALLER pool than usual.. It is already a fact that MOST Americans of voting age, DON'T bother voting. That is why in a nation with some 300 million or so odd people, you typically see significantly less than 30 million total votes, in this instance in a Presidential Election. A lot of those people don't vote, because they are apathetic and simply don't care what goes on in the nation, or the world, so long as it doesn't affect them directly, immediately. And many others DO actually care, but have come to the conclusion that their vote is ultimately meaningless, and won't help change anything. And THAT group is the one that affected this last election the most. Not overzealous femenists voting for Hillary, or asshole "Alt-Right" geeks and old deep-friend rednecks passionately voting for Trump. Those two groups COMBINED make up only a fraction of the American population. A LOT of people, on various points in the political spectrum (And yes that includes many traditional conservatives), either voted for a third party option that never has any real chance of winning, like Johnson, or they didn't vote at all, BECAUSE they couldnt' stomach either candidate.

Donald Trump didn't win because Alt-Right "Nazis" are taking over America, any more than he won because obnoxious SJWs were pushing for a corrupt candidate just because she had a vagina. Trump "won", because MOST Americans simply didn't vote. The people who actually could have swayed the election in Clinton's favor, didn't bother, because they saw her for what she is: a lying, conniving, phony, corporately bought and owned asshole. The Republican Party allowed itself to get highjacked by Trump, because they were SO desperate to get their asses back in the White House at any cost, that they went to bed with a slug of a man whom they didn't even LIKE or truly endorse. And The Democrats, meanwhile, instead of riding the tidal wave of enthusiasm of a candidate who not only had a historical amount (as in near 100%) of VOTER funding for his campaign, but who also coincidentally had a historically high youth vote, chose to stick with the "Status Quo". Hillary had been the "anointed one", destined to be the First Female President, even before her husband left office. It just so HAPPENED that the people in charge of the DNC, were some of her biggest supporters and allies.

So what we the American voting public got, was quite possibly THE worst choice of evils in a Presidential election, maybe ever. And that's saying something, because W. Bush vs. Kerry was PRETTY goddamn bad. But the bottom line is, to MOST Americans, BOTH candidates were incredibly unlikable, corrupt, untrustworthy, you name it. Even to many who actually DID vote, they voted for them STILL disliking them, but they still had to "toe that party line". And THAT is why Donald Trump is now the President of the United States of America. Not because he rode some tidal wave of populist approval. But as an apathetic afterthought, and a symptom of a socio-political disease that has infected this nation for...well, for most of it's existence actually. But it's certainly gotten worse, this "Two Party System" bullshit, and the corruption circle-jerk in DC that encompasses it, within the last few decades.

Me? It makes me sick that Trump is President. But I also feel the same as I did on election day: That both choices were equally fucked, and I wasn't about to put my stamp on either one of those people. Many Americans felt that way too, obviously. So I feel, as I did then, that America is sleeping in the bed they made. If Trump is the kind of cartoonish level of scumbag that people will allow to even BECOME a Nominee, let alone WIN an election? Then he is precisely what America deserves right now. Until we as a people can perhaps grow the hell up, STOP being so fixated on this "Liberal vs. Conservative" bullshit, get our the nation's head out of it's ass, and actually PROGRESS as a people. It's the 21st Century, yet a lot of folks, even YOUNG folks, act as if we're still stuck in the fuckin' 1950s.

And with that, DevilRising won the thread