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celador said:
Smear-Gel said:

There has never been a large non religious group of people forcing their views through violence? Well, alright.

we are talking about the present

what major non-religious groups are trying to enforce their doctrine worldwide?

FIrstly, I certainly wasnt talking about the present.

Secondly, do you think racism is born from religion? Or the ideologies of North Korea? Or governments instilling violence on their people and others for political gain or gaining more power? The west pushing western ideologies on other countries because they think it's the correct one? Stuff like furthering communism or caoitalism through means that lead to violence? I guess you'll say why some of these groups dont count, but my point is that this sort of thing is nt unique to one set of people.