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S.T.A.G.E. on 30 March 2017
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LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

actually I was differentiating between a second party publisher and developer (who make things exclusively for a platform for the ip holder). I was referring to a second party developer. The deal with cod is different Much like how Sony wouldn't pay for demon souls Outside of Japan Altus and namco had to step to publish over here as well as in other places

Third party control their intellectual property. Microsoft don't have as many rights as insomniac to sunset overdrive outside of exclusivity

To be honest I expected some better spin than this. No, you weren't differentiating anything. You didn't bring up any different between publisher and developer at all until I provided you actual evidence from someone who actually works in the industry that the type of deal you're describing is in fact second party. Trying to now say there is a difference between publishing and developing is just feeble shifting of goal posts. Here, let me help you with a gif.

This is what you're doing:



This is what you need to be doing:

No offense intended but jeebus, give it a fucking rest already. It's embarassing.

 No. Ive been saying to you that Insomniac wasnt second party to Microsoft from the start. A second party has to be contracted and therefore commissioned to make an exclusive IP and its development process is worked on for said company. Microsoft doesnt own the IP but did agree to publish the game (Thus...making this a third party issue, not second party). Insomniac wasnt commissioned by Microsoft to make Sunset Overdrive. They sought out Microsoft. 

Here is a video which will show you the definitions of first second and third party. it even shows (during the descrption) since Insomniac is a major second party studio for Sony the difference between their role as second party and third party briefly on pictures with Ratchet and clank (second party) and Sunset Overdive (third party)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxR0sUT3egc