EU referendum -UK users

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MikeRox said:

bonzobanana said:

I'm not sure how you've worked that out. The UK has a trading surplus with the rest of the world but a huge trade deficit with Europe and most of that trade deficit is with Germany. Because of this if Europe slaps on lets say a 10% duty  on UK goods and the UK does the same with European goods the UK will benefit from a far larger amount of duty paid to it because of the trade deficit and most of this extra duty will come from Germany. More german companies than any other nation in Europe rely on exports to the UK. We like German cars. A huge number of German firms would need to downsize and some may even go out of business. 

Also if the value of sterling drops then UK exports become far more competitive and the buying power of the pound makes German cars far more expensive.  A german car now that costs £30,000 could end up being close to £40,000 with a drop in value of sterling and additional duty. 

We will become like Australia where German cars are much rarer as they are uncompetitive with Japanese cars. German exports to the UK could drop significantly.

I honestly don't understand how you think this would be an opportunity for Germany. The German economy will contract badly. It will contract more in Germany than anywhere else in Europe. Lets not forget the huge debt of Europe including the UK. 

http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/

Europe, the US and many other countries are building up huge debt. It won't be long before Greece, Portugal and Italy need bailing out again and I question whether the Germans will be willing to do that again. Both Germany and France have invested a lot in these countries although I question whether the word invested is really applicable here. It's just a plaster on a gaping wound.

Having a mortgage and a newish car I'm paying for plus being single and financially stretched I will probably vote remain but by doing so I know I'm just delaying the shit hitting the fan so to speak. 

One thing I've learned over the years is the politicians of all countries are some of the most vile corrupt and stupid people there are. The EU project is just another layer of these parasites.

I'm starting to think this is why the polls are shifting in Brexit's favour now.

Common sense suggests most of their claims are at best a worst case scenario, and at worst outright lies.

Remain have lost the argument and are now resorting to the exact scare tactics I would have expected Brexit to need even last month.

 

George Osborne warning "I do not want Nigel Farage's vision of Britain. It is mean, it is divisive, it is not who we are as a country."

 

He is the worst person to make this argument right now. Given his current wounds on tax credits, disability and less recently the spare room subsidy/bedroom tax.

 

 

My advice to everyone in this is to stop listening to politicians on both sides of the fence and actually go by what the studies and genuine experts are saying. Politicians will always find the most exagerrated claims that support their argument and in many cases are just outright lies. 

This whole referendum has really shown the worst of British politics with both sides stooping to the most shameful of levels.