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Machiavellian on 27 October 2015
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LivingMetal said:
Machiavellian said:

Can you explain how this was needed.  So, when you read comments from students that were in the class or saw the video and they say how scared they were or frigthen, is this the result you feel is justified within a school environment.  When you watch the video and you look at the kids and they act as numb to the whole situation as if this is normal that is the needed result.  I am just wondering what type of environment you feel is needed within our schools when police officers result to this type of violence for non-violent teens.


I've already explained in numerous posts that the girl resisted, the cop reacted accordingly. And actions such as this is NEVER justified in any environment.  But people bring it upon themselves such as this girl for disrecpecting athority.  And I've already stated that there could have been other solutions, but that didn't happen.  But you choose to ignore that.  Go figure.  Just because i've made very valid points that reflect the reality that we live in, you are trying to paint me as a person who condones an environment that's harmful to society.  You have yet to successfully argue my points so now you are attempting to discredit me by falsehood.  It won't work. 

By resisting are you saying the half a second the cop grab her arm before putting her in a choke hold, flipping her desk backwards, throwing her out her seat and jumping on top of her was enough resistance to deserve this type of police force.  So are you saying that the police has the right to treat you and anyone else like this because you refused to get out of a chair.  I am asking this question because I am wondering just how much power are you giving the police for non-violent situations.

At BOLDED:  That is the point.  There should have been other solutions.  Just saying this is the result of a stubborn kid is one thing.  Being ok that this should be the result is something totally different.  You say you were not OK with the results but then you go on and defend it as if this should happen.  There is no grey here, if this is something you believe is not ok, then it should be something that should never happen again.  Disrecpting authorty would be if the girl yelled, cursed, hit, spit on the cop.  She did non of that, she shutdown.

I am not trying to paint you as anything, what I am trying to understand is if you are not ok about how this event went down, then how can you support how the event went down.  You really cannot stand in the middle and say this is not ok but its ok.  There is no such thing as this is the world we live in when you can make a change.  

Being a cop is a hard job no doubt about it.  As a soldier its easy, you get a command and you carry it out.  As a police officer you are presented with multiple situations where you have to think before acting.  A lot of those situations demand that a cop be patient, understanding and well trained to contain their emotions.  I would definitely say that being a cop is one of the hardest jobs out their because of the various situations that can happen.  Being a cop in a school is even toughter because of how teens are at that stage in life.  A cop who uses force like this in a non-violent situation should never be allowed to police a school.  I can tell you for a fact, I do not sit in the middle.  I feel this situation should never have happen and I also believe that as parents we make sure it never happen in our schools.