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Arkaign said:
noname2200 said:
Arkaign said:
noname2200 said:
It is possible, just possible, that Peyton may have become long in the tooth. I am willing to engage in discussion on this topic.

Kubiak is a moron is the problem. Peyton, when in full control of the offense, is not bad even with a weak arm. Peyton running dumb plays for a dumb coach = fail.

I'm not so sure. So far there have been more than a few misreads and overthrows on Manning's part. I put those on execution instead of scheme.

Fake edit: That was another overthrow. He just sent it a foot too high.

I do think PM is diminished somewhat for sure, without a doubt. I also think some of that terrible first series for PM was due to Kubiak's awful offensive ideas. Notice how when they let PM be PM, things got way better in a hurry for him. Credit has to go to Denver defense for there even being a chance here, but PM looks so much better reading the defense from the shotgun.

Bigger question is, why did anyone think Kubiak would be an upgrade over John Fox? I get that people weren't happy with Fox's playoff record, but you don't get rid of the guy who's coached a team to at least 12 wins in each of his three seasons without someone really good to replace him.