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McDonaldsGuy said:

On the other hand, Nintendo the past 4 years have gone insane. Have they done anything right?

- New Super Mario Bros. U and Nintendo Land do not have online. In 2012 this was unacceptable Having online with those things would have barely changed the hardware or software sales for Wii U.
- The weak hardware. What the heck Nintendo? It made sense for the Wii because of the controller. The Wii U does not have that luxury. They couldn't give us at least something that could be ALMOST near the PS4/One? Maybe a Dreamcast to the PS2? Instead we get something weaker than the Xbox 360 and PS3 and then Nintendo charges us $349 for it! What the heck were they thinking? Unbelievable. The Wii U isn't weaker than the XB360 and PS3.
- The gamepad controller. Appeals to no one. The Wiimote appealed to non-gamers (and even hardcore gamers). Not even Nintendo is utilizing it. Did they just throw it on cause tablets were popular at the time with no planning? Probably. When I first saw them unveil the controller I thought it was a joke, and that it was a complimentary controller. When they were serious about it the next year I made like 3 threads (on different forums) asking what was going on and no one knew. Everyone was just as confused as I was. This is clearly an exaggeration, especially since your basis for this is probably just what the vocal minority says, and even among them it's not true.
- The name. Nuff said. XBox One is arguably a worse name.
- Their online still sucks Probably
- Super Mario 3D World isn't what gamers wanted. We wanted a Super Mario 64/Galaxy type game in HD, imagine how glorious it would have been. The sales reflect that. 3D World is probably a great game but it doesn't have near the appeal 64/Galaxy type game would have. Also no online multiplayer - Nintendo are you kidding me? F- Probably should look at its sales and reception again. Even if they did a game with online multiplayer and a game like Galaxy, look at other games that actually did do stuff like this on the Wii U. It didn't do that much
- Zelda cel shaded. Ugly graphics. Their E3 2012 demo looked so cool.  Instead we get an ugly cartoon that looks like it's trying to be between Wind Waker and OOT/TP. Also, Zelda - like Metroid - is supposed to have the more "realistic" graphics because even Nintendo admitted it themselves. There is an event in Melee where you fight Nintendo's "realistic" characters and Link is among them! This Zelda will not be a big hit. Compare it to Twilight Princess which is the most hyped Zelda of all time. This is clearly not a popular opinion on the new Zelda game. If this were a popular opinion, Twilight Princess should be the best selling Zelda game.
- No console Pokemon. Seriously could sell a billion, and Pokemon amiibos? Trading card game fad all over again. Instead Nintendo is content with letting the Wii U fail. A billion? Overstating it. There's no real evidence that making a console pokemon would be as successful as you claim.  FYI, there are some forms of console pokemon games. The traditional games, though, sell way better.
- Amiibos. No point outside collecting them. Do you even know anything about Amiibos and how well it's doing?
- Smash Bros. 4 , came out way too late (2 years after release) and no 8 player online play? Sad. They couldn't even give this game a subtitle. This is just grasping, now. 
- Retro Studios not being used to full potential. This dev team could possibly bring us a new FPS game that will blow our rocks off, instead we are given Donkey Kong Country: TF which had no online play. It also flopped badly in sales. Good. Weak complaint.  Very.
- Game droughts because they didn't prepare for HD. LMAO HD consoles have been around since 2005 and they were caught off guard (like devs were from 05-08) and they didn't prepare? WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?!?!?!?!!? Now they have had massive gaming droughts. This is the first time we won't get a Zelda console 2 years after console release. This is one of your best complaints, since this is definitely a big miscalculation on Nintendo's part.
- No new IPs. Splatoon is like their only new IP this gen. Nintendo could do that for the Wii (even though the Wii had a couple new IPs) because of the Wiimote, but Nintendo needs to start expanding its library ASAP. Gamers don't get as excited for Smash Bros. or Zelda as they did in 2006-08. You say "No new IPs" then talk about the new IP they are just coming out with (and also you forgot that they had another new IP, and some non-Wii U new IPs for this gen as well).  This is a bad complaint.
- Scaring away third parties. Nintendo made billions of cash from the Wii and DS. That probably could have bought some good exclusives from third parties and could've helped them out a bit as well. Instead Nintendo scares them away. What's your argument for them doing this?  Nothing really.  Especially since they actually have bought some exclusives from 3rd parties.
- The Virtual Console STILL hasn't even reached a third of its potential I agree with you here. Would like to know why they take it so slowly.
- No more E3 presentations Likely not as big of a deal as you think it is.  Last year they did a good job.

Now the good things Nintendo has done with the Wii U:

- Mario Kart 8. Came out at a good time (Mario Karts tend to come out 1.5-2 years after a console release) and was a hit and really good
- Saving Bayonetta 2 Exactly, contradicting one of your bad points.
- Nothing else Except that's not true.

Nintendo in the Wii era seemed like geniuses. Porting Twilight Princess to the Wii was a genius move. Packing Wii Sports? Wow. Packing Nintendo Land? Wow, but not the good kind of wow. We finally get a Nintendo HD console and we get Mario 3D World and a cel shaded Zelda rather than epic games.

Did Nintendo become arrogant or something? And think they can do no wrong? What was their gameplan with the Wii U? Every decision they have made this gen has baffled me.


I feel like you don't really know what you're talking about for 80% of this.