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Soundwave on 11 September 2014
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CGI-Quality said:
Soundwave said:
CGI-Quality said:

PS2 sold 10 million units by August of 2001? I'd need to see a run down of that. I think the only machine ahead of the PS4 is the Wii. You can't say: "there's no way" and then not provide anything credible.

Edit: Never mind. Seems my skepticism was well put: 

Again like I said it's misleading because the PS2 launched in Japan first in March of 2000 and then didn't launch in North America until late 2000 and Europe even later. 

Look at your numbers the PS2 sold 3.52 million in Japan in its first 7 months alone ... PS4 will take years to hit that number in Japan. In North America, PS2 has been outpacing the PS4 pretty soundly every month for 2001 vs. 2014 month to month comparisions. 

This month is no exception ...

PS2 August 2001 - 327k

PS4 August 2014 - 190k

Not even close. 

Again, I need you to provide me the ireffutable info that says the PS2 hit 10 million by Aug 17, 2001, or you're just wasting everyone's time.

LOL, stick to that belief if you want, but if you actually look at the factors behind the launches, PS2 is pulling ahead in North America beating the PS4 soundly for several months in a row and absolutely trouncing its Japanese numbers. 

The PS4 is just hiding behind the fact that it had a less staggered launch, so its total to date looks more impressive than it actually is. It's definitely not selling like the PS2, it's horrible in Japan and faltering in North America. 

190k for a first August for a market leader is nothing to write home about, it's quite weak. 

I'm pretty sure if I dig around I can find more specific numbers but PS2 was at 30 million+ by May 2002:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/14/technology/14GAME.html

So I'd say it's safe to say they were at 10+ million by August 2001.