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kowenicki said:
BMaker11 said:
kowenicki said:
Can anyone point me to someone (a confirmed owner) who is "outraged"?

Early adopters get stiffed.

Always.


360 didn't dip below $299 for 2 years ($279 Core) when they were phasing out old (RROD ridden) models, and introducing the Arcade, Premium, and Elite.

PS3 didn't dip below $499 until 1 year after release with the 40GB model.

Wii didn't drop price for 3 years.

PS2 didn't drop price for 2 years

XB/GC dropped price in 6 months, but the PS2 was just in utter domination of them

But for the most part, the early adopters haven't been stiffed. There's a significant amount of time between launch and the first price cut. Sure, the people who buy consoles a month before the first price cut get the short end of the stick, but there isn't much other precedent to say that early adopters always get stiffed (unless you think nobody should buy a console until a year after launch to take advantage of a price cut. Because that sure would look good to MS/Sony/Ninty stockholders and developers). But in the case of the XBone getting a price cut within the first 3 months? That is stiffing the early adopter.

But in the grand scheme of things, it's only the UK. Ultimately, it's not that big a deal, since the prices are the same everywhere else. Plus apparently, the XBone is just "on sale" for the TF release, instead of being an official price cut.

The PS3 dropped $100 in the USA after 7 months ($599 to $499)

in the UK after 7 months it got a £75 cut and at the same time a new version with a slightly smaller HDD was introduced for £126 less!!

A Ps3 could be had for £126 less after just 8 months in the UK

this is equivalent to the ONE being available for £300 by July this year.

 

Actually, the PS3 launched at $500. People just forget about the 20GB model since it was the first to be discontinued. Then they dropped the 60GB to $500 and made the 80GB for $600. Then they introduced the 40GB for $400 in November 07, one year after launch, which is the first meaningful "PS3 price cut". 

UK didn't get all those options like the US got, they just had the 60GB. Then the 40GB was introduced while the 60GB was being phased out. But this was because the 60GB phase out/40GB introduction was across the board for all countries. Not to mention the PS3 didn't launch in the UK until 4 months after the US, which kinda skews the comparison since the XBone released worldwide at once (or rather, in most major markets).

But not to act like Sony can do no wrong, the UK gamers did get stiffed here....but that's because the PS3 launched so late there, and then Sony made across the board decisions. I don't think the US and Japan got screwed though, since the price cut was a year after launches in these territories. But with the XBone, it's not an across the board decision and there wasn't a staggered launch, so that on it's own makes the comparison between XBone UK and PS3 UK not really apples to apples. If the PS3 had a worldwide launch, the, what I'm deeming the "first meaningful PS3 price cut", would have been 12 months and not 7 in the UK.

To make it comparable, you have to take a market the XBone hasn't launched in yet, and then, for example, at E3, MS drops the price by $100, officially. Then the country that just launched XBone in March got a price cut only 3 months into it's release....but the NA and EU would technically have had 6 months on the market, so it's not really "stiffing" the early adopters there. With the PS3, they weren't specifically targeting one market, like MS is doing with XBone for the TF launch. They slashed the price altogether.