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I didn't enjoy them when I was doing them, but afterwards, it felt good. To win, you just have to outsmart them!

In the first game, I mostly just stuck to dropping from gargoyles to take them out and the bit at the end with the explosives made me stop breathing for about 15 mins because it was just tense as I was having to sneak around on the floor.

In this game, you just have to be pro-active and use all your tools. First, just go around the gargoyles and work out roughly where the enemies are going and try and isolate one and take him out with a glide kick-beat down. If you can't isolate any, then you can just make a distraction to move them away and get one from behind and so on...

I wouldn't call them fun, but they aren't cheap, they just require patience and thought

As for the melee, I won't have a single word said against that, it is amazing. The later enemies can be a bit annoying, but it would be too easy if they weren't there. But that is like the predator, you basically just have to keep your combo going, jumping over people, countering and waiting for the opportunity to punch or combo kill, it is just great fun, no other melee systems come close

Having said that, I didn't love the game, I am not very good at stealth and I don't really love Batman, the plot lost me somewhat with all the obscure Batman references