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-CraZed- on 06 October 2012
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Omega_Phazon_Pirate. said:

It's funny, I keep seeing the same song being sung that a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama. That's the biggest load of bs, I keep hearing. It's funny, we supposedly live in a free country, yet we only get really two options, thanks in part to the mentality that we can only have democrats and republicans, who are by in large, do the same crap that keeps, so yes there really isn't "a dime's difference" that the first response claimed there was. We have both parties, that want to expand the wars, vote for NDAA and the Patriot Act, vote for offshore oil drilling, vote for No-Child Left Behind, and the list does go on. Which is why it really doesn't make a difference to people who actually know the real issues who gets elected between the two.

So yes, those who want to vote Gary Johnson or any other third party candidate should. The undemocratic statist Commission on Presidential Debates openly discriminates against other candidates, which both parties support that policy, so I don't see how how anyone can say either supports open debate lol. Funny how we're supposed to be the "freest" country in the world, yet we don't actually show it a lot of the time.  Also note that Mr. Johnson won in a 2:1 democratic state of New Mexico, and managed to leave office with a $1 billion surplus.

If republicans lose, it's their own fault. Funny how they worked so hard to disclude, and alienate the libertarian part of the base with they lack of respect they treated Ron Paul, and are now begging for those votes. If you really wanted someone who could defeat Obama, they should have voted for Dr. Paul, who actually does attract more votes from disenfranchised Democrats and Independents than any of the other candidates.

 


It certainly is NOT BS. It is true that on most issues Libertarians are more in line with the Republican party outside the social issues. The Democrats are not counting on or need libertarians to win they need only their base as Democrats do usually outnumber other party's in voter registration and most Libertarians such as Ron Paul voters will not vote for Obama. Ron Paul HIMSELF decided his best shot at becoming POTUS is/was running as a Republican. For good reason too. They have more in common.

The issue isn't whether Ron Paul got the nomination or not its the blind devotion to the man himself by his supporters is what galls me the most. He was allowed into the primary process went to all the debates and was presented before the voters in the primaries and he lost. Being bitter about it and folding your arms and saying "I'm taking my tricycle and going home" is not the way to gain respect for the Libertarian 'movement'.

Like I said I like Gary Johnson and think he did a great job in NM but he doesn't have the appeal nationwide (yet) and unfortunately he isn't inline with the mainstream. Sorry Libertarians but not everyone wants strip clubs near schools, legalized drugs etc. Nihilism, isn't a mainstream idea.  

As I posted... Romney is no Libertarian but wasting your vote on a sure loser just to prove a point is suicide. Who do you think will appoint Supreme Court Justices more in line with Libertarians and the constitution? Romney or Obama?

Here read this....http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/18/Time-for-Ron-Paul-Fans-to-Support-the-Constitution

very poignant article on why Libertarians need to: 1. Vote republican and 2. be more active within the party to help bring it more inline with your own views. Just understand that Libertarianism could also use some reshaping as well. There are many questions Libertarians have trouble with just as the other parties do (its just the Democrats are so far away from our Constitution there really isn't any hope for them)