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Capulous said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Yeah, it was pretty much the consensus by everyone but Microsoft. Xbox Live Silver is downright worthless. As for Sony,they wanted to start online after the time Sega did (hiring Microsoft to help them) because they had been trying to do online gaming since the Genesis era. The only thing Microsoft has ever done for gaming is create a pay to use your own online service. Has it helped or hurt gaming? It's only left things in question and split a marketshare between the same group of gamers. I guess it helped get Sony off of Nintendos back, but yeah thats about it. Yeah if I don't like Xbox Live don't use it...yes...and get locked out of My Xfinity, Netflix and the like? Microsoft should leave those things optional on Xbox Live Silver like Sony does for standard PSN. Netflix has nothing to do with Xbox Live and the system of choice to use it is PS3 for a reason.

Xbox Live can be a lower price or even free. Explain to me what is worth paying for? I've gone through it quite a few times and everytime I do the list of things worth paying for drops drastically. You already pay for your online, Microsoft is just becoming a middle man and forcing you to pay a toll.

You were the one who brought rewards into this when it isn't exactly free to add to things Microsoft does when they really aren't doing anything.

As for this months PSN Plus update: Does Microsoft do....this?

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/03/26/playstation-plus-april-preview-free-shank-2-and-shift-2-unleashed-ghost-recon-future-soldier-beta/

Free games, Free trials, discounted games, free and discounted themes and avatars and much more. Don't equate PSN PLUS with Xbox Live Gold...they are not the same. As I said PSN Plus would be like a tier above Live like a Platinum.  Standard PSN and Xbox Live Gold share more similar functions.

PSN's start showed just how little Sony was invested in online gaming. If they were very interested in it, they sure didn't seem to show it. Last generation's Xbox LIVE showed them people were interested in online gaming; it still took them awhile to get something together.

Well, this is getting pointless. We already discussed the free games, discounted items, etc... and you have not answered anything. LIVE rewards is free, it is part of Xbox as you get rewarded for things you do on Xbox, as well as other things. Is it really that hard to grasp? You just keep bringing the same things up without addressing anything else.

Anyway the topic has been de-railed enough, so I am just going to step out of the thread. Thanks for the discussion.


The only thing Microsoft is good at is online OS. They proved that when they helped Sega with the Dreamcast. Sony's strong point was never supposed to be online, its creating tech and games. Xbox Live is their only strong point, but at this point paying for it is debatable. Making games is their only true weak point from a first party perspective. We're not going off topic, we've been talking about the validity of charging for online this whole time. Gotta hand it to Sony though , they learned pretty quickly with someone as adept to online OS as Microsoft.