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Michael-5 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
d21lewis said:
Michael-5 said:
 

Actually I own a 360, a Wii, and a DS, and I owned a PS3 in the past, but it broke outside of warrenty. I don't have an outsider view.

Also most quality titles on PS3? Where were you before 2009? Sure now PS3 had a better 2009 and 2011, but what did they release in 2010, a single game (GT5)? You can't just look at the most recent year and forget about all the others. Quality wise Nintendo is the best, MS is #2, Sony is last, but they are catching up where Wii is nearly done, and 360's focus has shifted to Kinect.

I disagree with you. As a gaming device I still think the 360 is supperior to PS3. If you just want to play games, 360 is cheaper, and has more exclusives, of better quality.PS3 however is a multi-purpose device, and is more reliable.

Not sure if I can agree about Sony being the most stable at E3, what has PSP gotten in the last few years? PS3 early life was composed of announced titles which took 4 years or more to release, some of the gmaes (mainly third party) have yet to be released.

As for Nintendo, I think you are way off. Out of all the consoles this gen, Nintendo has the most wanted exclusives. It don't think all 30 million Mario Kart sales are due to casual gamers, and games like Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda, and Smash Bros consistantly outsell almost any 360/PS3 title excluding Halo. They definatly do release the most shovelware, but who cares. They still produce a strong amount of AAA quality titles, most of which are above the HD exclusive standard (only exclusive above Zelda last year was Uncharted, and I think XenoBlade/The Last Story will rank super high as well).

Just passing through and I saw the discussion.   Just adding to what you already said--The Wii is the home to the most shovelware but Nintendo themselves have releases megahit after megahit.  They really give Wii owners a reason to own the console.  I could have nothing but a library of Nintendo's releases and I'd be happy with my Wii.  I would put the games released this gen by Nintendo up against anything released by Sony and Microsoft.  The PS3 and Xbox are the home of the third party quality games.  When it comes to first party, Nintendo stands alone on the mountain top.


Outside of Mario, Super Smash Bros and the Zelda franchise Nintendo has nothing on Sony or Microsoft. Its the same stuff with new gameplay, unless its being made for casuals. Nintendos best new IP's are third party titles which arent associated with them this gen. Nintendo needs to learn to trust key third party because they've been helping during tough times for actual gamers. Nintendo has had more gaming droughts out of any of the consoles and Microsoft takes second place this gen for sure. This was yet another thing they were speaking about on Bonus Round.  Microsoft thought they could hang with Sony when it came to actual game production. Microsoft relies on third parties for everything of pure importance. Sony does not rely on third parties. Sony has always had the third parties because they were the ones to round them up  and show they gave a damn when Nintendo and Sega were ignoring them. They knew library was key to success before they even entered the gaming industry and hit the ground running their first gen. 

Outside Uncharted, God of War, and Gran Turismo, Sony has nothing on Nintendo. Outside Halo, Gears and Forza MS has nothing on Nintendo. I can apply your logic in the opposite direction easily.

Do you forget that Metroid Prime 3 has a meta score of 90/100, and that other games in that franchise have seen a metascore as high as 97/100. That's more then ANY Sony 1st party exclusive.

Do you forget that Mario Kart outsells both GT5 and Forza 3 combined x2!

Do you forget that XenoBlade has the highest score for a JRPG this gen?

No, Nintendo is much more then Mario, Zelda, and Smash Bros, those are just games you are interested in. Nintendo offers the most AAA quality titles, and with Nintendo we know the quality is consistantly high.

You critisize MS and Nintendo for having gaming droughts, but what does Sony offer for 2012 for the PS3? For 2011 Sony didn't even release a single 1st party game for the PSP, and where were you before 2009 when PS3 only had Resistance, Motorstorm, and Uncharted 1 (a good, but not great game)? Nintnedo had Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Metroid Prime, Fire Emblem, and a whole assortment of 9/10 or greater titles. Microsoft too had Halo, Gears, Forza, PGR, Fable, and many timed exclusives.

Gaming is defined by more then 1 or two strong years of sales. 2007 and 2008 are largely regarded to be two of the greatest years in gaming, not only for this gen, but of all time, and guess what? It's because of Nintendo and MS, not Sony. Just because Sony is catching wind near the end of the PS3's life means nothing.

d21lewis: I agree with you. Metroid Prime 3 is much better then any shooter hybrid or shooter this gen (well I like Mass Effect 2 better, but that's not exclusive). Smash Bros is my favorite fighter, and Mario Kart is probably that unmissable title to own. With XenoBlade and The Last Story comming, Wii has more must have titles then PS3 and 360. People who don't see that, probably don't own a Wii, and just label it because that's the easiest thing to do

You've written a great wall and my time is slim as you've noticed because we've had our squabbles, discussions (call 'em what you will) in the past. The FACT of the matter is Nintendo and Sony both give a damn about investing in gaming more than Microsoft. If this wasn't true and Sony was so far out of touch with people who game they would've never hit the ground  running during the launch of the first Playstation. Microsoft could not mirror such accolades and they still haven't. The difference that exists between Sony and  Nintendo though my friend is that Nintendo gives you the same characters with new experiences  each gen, and Sony gives new experiences with new characters each gen (with the old characters coming up once in a while to say hello). There is no dependence, and nothing can prove this point any better than Sony launching their own version of Super Smash Bros t (oh I wish for the day) . The amount of high profile characters Sony put on the map is staggering. 

For the record Sony had a gaming drought only for a year or year and a half at best (depending on your complaint) not two years. Sony has been pumping out classic titles which represent he PS3 since the console launched. Kameo was great, but it did not define the Xbox, Perfect Dark certainly didnt either, but it took three years for a certain game known as Halo 3 to resurface in 2008, which was a year both Microsoft and Sony shined. Microsoft got their one and only to launch and Sony got the first title to launch that would boost their console sales through the roof in MGS4 in june of 2008. The biggest problem now my friend is that the first party titles are drying up  (in a sea of third party titles) and the exclusives are starting to show their exhaust this is where the PS3 gained its true value as a console. As the years keep rolling on the Xbox 360 will keep turning into the living room cable box and the PS3 will keep getting more games. The question that everyone should be asking is the way the 360 is going out this gen, is this the way you want the 720's launch to begin? My question you would  be, do you like videogames? Thats the only question I pose if you truly believe Microsoft has done more for the gamer than Sony. Relying on third parties, investing in non-gaming, getting chummy with the UFC, acquiring skype and the various multimedia aspects doesnt prove it. All this just to prove that Xbox live is worth $60, and in the end losing focus of what the Xbox disc drive is supposed to be used for.

You dont have to like Sony exclusives. The point is who gives a damn more. Simple.