"I miss the old VGChartz from 200x" threads - A BIG announcement

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makingmusic476 said:

Kantor said:

I think it's fairly easy to tell between somebody who doesn't speak English as a first language, and somebody who is just being intentionally lazy. For one thing, the former will always apologise, and will pretty much always be perfectly coherent.

What I'm about to say may sound heartless and terrible, but this is an English-language forum, and although, as you say, advanced English learners are welcome, somebody who genuinely speaks next to no English or cannot speak coherently in the language at all shouldn't really post here. Hell, someone like Zexen would probably be classified as an English learner, but he speaks it as well as any of us. Carmina, on the other hand, was completely unintelligible, and only awesome because she was one of a kind.

I suppose people who can't understand what's going on will leave eventually of their own accord, however. Which does suggest that most unintelligible posters who have been here for a while just aren't trying.

This is true.

I suppose I'm just assuming that people who don't speak English natively will naturally improve their skills over time by participating in discussion.

If they still can't come to grips with the language, then I suppose you'd have to do something at that point, but they should at least be given some leniency to see how they adapt.

As for your last paragraph, for some it's mere laziness, but some truly struggle to understand what others are saying.   And sometimes they just don't care, because they feel that their opinion is the only one that matters and everyone should hear it anyway.  I'm sure we've all had conversations where the other person fails to grasp the most basic of logical concepts, yet have no interest in ending the discussion.

My English isn't very good, so I always have a tab open with Google transator.