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nen-suer said:
theprof00 said:

Brilliant idea, there should be downside for role calming.
I specifically used them often to get out deep mess without thinking twice about it. xD

Happy that it will be difficult for players to acquit themselves when they're in trouble?

1. No, happy that scum will have trouble acuity themselves when they're in trouble (any pro town should've understood that)

Hey I'm up here...

Again, and this is the same thing with Hat. Chloe and Elena are taken. This is a Radish-style party crashing. Unless he's joking like Hat was, he doesn't have a nice ass.

2. ..ookay ?

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Nen-suer then semi-defends Linkz' miller claim. Can't really fault him for that

He also jumps on Hat, which I agreed with. However, I said all of it first, so it's possibly parroting.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4230880
In this post, he says "you ignored Radish's scummy posts" attempting to make Linkz look like he has tunnel vision, but then himself says "Radish always says the wrong thing, so can't fault him for that".

3. Key word ignored.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4231349
In this post, Nen skips over what Linkz actual suspicions were and says it was because nen doubted his claim. I didn't just see the doubtful part, I also saw that nen was parroting.  He continues by saying "I suspect your for you opinion of Hat Radish and myself". The odd one out seems to be Radish. Linkz had given him a pass, and nen did too, yet he uses that to bolster his evidence.

4. Linkz never gave people a pass before, i played wit him and he always said "just because he is like that doesn't mean we don't pressure him"


So he's not Raja. That covers all the women.

5. *Look at Raja's grave*...yeah i'm not Raja >_>

To repost http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4231689
He's just now addressing my thought about the OP. I never said the OP had anything to do with an SK. My question was straightforward, and in fact, I asked about a third party. He was the one suggesting SK.

6. lol, so you're saying we have 2 mafia factions in a 12 players game. of course if we have to assume a 3rd party it will be a SK

You asked if i considered a 3rd party for Linkz role btw not you thoughts about the OP (suspicion of you just keep raising)

Disappears or just says inconsequential things til morning.

7. Some of us work to make a living....i need to sleep at night.

Upon daybreak he says good riddance to Hat, never noting that it should have lessened his suspicion of Linkz since Hat was a big piece of his evidence.

8. But Hat showed up Miller the same role Linkz claimed

 

and will also mean we have alot of investigate roles, but with Kantor dead its clear tha's not the case

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4235529
If what he's saying is true, shouldn't he be saying "Hammer this guy"? Linkz also asks this question. I agree. You only say something like this to escape culpability imo.

9. nah, everyone know i want Linkz dead, escaping culpability is you saying you will claim if i get lynched!

Then comes a huge mess with Linkz. Hard to say what's what there.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4235837
He suspects me and FF simply for voting him? He hasn't questioned me all game, and I'd even venture that he was buddying. Suddenly I'm high up on his list?

10. Yes, you seemed anti Linkz and share my opinions...... suddenly when Linkz was about to be lynched you switched 180 and went after me doing everything in you power to stop the lynch train and turn it on me

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4235860
"What do you mean my arguments are sound but scummy"
I mean exactly that. For example, you say 2 millers makes no sense. But then you venture that there might be more millers. Your argument that 2 millers makes no sense is logically sound. Your comment that there will likely be more is scummy. That's one example. 'Defending Radish is scummy" is logically sound, 'radish always just looks scummy' is scummy.

11. Read what i said above

Therefore, I think he will flip third party, and you will look good, and then I don't think you will be lynched.

12. There is no second mafia, your just trying to make your self look good thro that possibilty

or u mean Linkz the SK that you said you suspected me of being earlier?

Also why claim after lynching me ?  why not claim now ? there is no reason to claim after my lynch ?

and then we lynch Linkz? why not lynch him first?

IIntersting to see Proff creating distant from FF in his last part of the post and also shows he future plans to keep Linkz

even tho he said he will lynching  him after me

1. Yet, you said you were happy that people would only be punished if they say their actual role. Let me explain normal games so you and others understand my point. Normally, when lynch trains are about to occur, townies claim their roles and scum make up roles. Townies don't have to worry about claiming and in fact, the whole reason the new rules about claiming exist is because townies were simply claiming and it was becoming too easy to find the scum because scum always made up quirky roles, in an attempt to evade counterclaiming. It was a dark time for vgc mafia. NOW, with these rules the past 5-6 games townies try not to claim because they may lose their power. It become much easier for scum to hide actually. Your response just now is that it's hard for scum to acquit themselves? That doesn't make any sense at all. I wold have believed you had you said something like "yes, I don't think town should be able to acquit with a claim", but your response is that it's better for town? I don't even think you knew what you were talking about and just saying things that you think sounded good.

2. Right, so I just called you a liar, and your response is "...ookay"? During the character ass thing several people claimed. What was funny was that Hat mentioned only radish and linkz, never acknowledging your claim, and adding that radish and linkz must be chloe and elena. Through that ENTIRE 100 or so posta about the asses, you never spoke up. I think you realized that you almost trapped yourself in a roleclaim that could be countered and hoped nobody would notice. Additionally, you didn't want to clear the air because you thought it might look suspicious.

3. Explain? What key word.

4. Yes, he has. He gives radish a pass almost every game. I think he even has a saying, no lynch for newbs on day 1. While Radish isn't a newb, he plays like one. I'm certain that he gave Radish a pass last game and the game before.

5. Well, there was discussion that Raja might be running around somewhere due to the rod. This ties in with the asses. You're either Nathan, or a liar. But maybe liar is too harsh a word. I'd say it's something more like a wannabe. You want to be friendly. Someone can explain it to you better. We've seen countless times where people have joined in the joking (a la the apple banana thing) to seem nonchalant. In fact, I would say you're playing extremely nonchalant this game. When you say things like "oh you just have a feeling? Oh well that's fine". Now if one person isn't fitting past playstyle, I'd say it's you.

6. Ok, maybe there aren't two mafia factions, I'm sorry I brought it up (I actually never said there were two mafia factions). I said there may be a third party and mafia. I don't know how much clearer I can make it.

-"So then you're 100% confident that he's not a third party? Or am I misreading you?"

-"........considering our relatively small number i never thought of the possibility of a third party. When you asked about the interesting point in the OP did u mean there is a SK ? And he is the one who killed Raja and stole the staff ?"

Nope I asked you exactly if you ever thought he might be a third party. My question about the OP was a general question to everyone and I didn't address it specifically to anyone. You connected those two thoughts on your own. What I think is interesting is that that is what you connected with it. If I were t o say something else to other people like ff or trucks, they might think that I was referring to something else. You have, shall we say, "scum on the brain". I don't mean you're looking for scum, I mean scum is closer to home than you let off.

7. I meant nothing by that. I just didn't want people to think I was skipping posts or intentionally leaving things out that may clear your case. You were simply either gone or not saying anything of import. No offense.

8. You said Hat was of equal suspicion as Linkz. You linked them through interactions. Secondly, you seem to be ignoring Radish. In fact, I recall you saying that if Radish turned up scum, then Linkz most likely would too. I think you're giving up your buddy in order to lynch linkz. Let it be known that I'm now willing to lynch Radish as well. I think Radish will turn up scum, and I'm looking more at the person who might be trying to use his death, than some random person defending an idiot (no offense radish)

9. Avoiding the accusation? Everyone knows you want Linkz dead. So then why did you warn people. Tell me specifically. Ask yourself "why did I warn people about insta hammering Linkz if I want him dead". Then, tell me what your answer is. Further explain how I'm escaping culpability by claiming. I expect a very good explanation, not something half assed.

10. I agreed with your opinions? The only opinions that existed were that 2 millers was odd. There is really nothing scummy that I can see about Linkz at the moment. What is unscummy is that he acknowledges his eventual lynch. And he will be lynched. He knows I stay the course when something needs to be done. Plus, miller is still a very tricky role to claim. Claiming miller is like claiming cop. He will be lynched, I guarantee that. But you..you are just all kinds of scummy. Dodging questions, deflecting, pretending to be calm...you said earlier "I just wanted to make my suspects list look bigger", and now here you are casting suspicion on almost every player. I bet if I went through your posts, I could find all your scum buddies simply in the people you haven't cast suspicion on, and also radish.

11. Not sure I understand.

12. How am I making myself look good? Yes, I think linkz is a 3rd party. I said that in the very long post that you JUST RESPONDED TO. I have my reasons for not claiming.

Tell me something...where were you last night?